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Mon Dec 27, 2021 7:51 am

worth1 wrote: Sun Dec 26, 2021 1:44 pm
Tormato wrote: Sun Dec 26, 2021 1:31 pm
worth1 wrote: Sun Dec 26, 2021 11:52 am Here's one for the books.
Chowder made from leftover Christmas ham, the potatoes and green beans leftover from Christmas dinner.
Additional ingredients are....
Some of my homemade red hominy I made some time ago.
Didn't have any corn/elote in the house so I simply make do with what I have.
Freshly ground cumin and Mexican oregano.
No salt added at this time.
Powdered milk will be involved.
Later will be fresh pablano chilies and some shrimp.
Using the term chowder loosely because I'll thicken it with oyster crackers.
This ain't your average everyday New England style chowder.
This is Texas style chowder.
There's no "r" in New England chowda. ;)
Like the difference between how you say and how you spell gunwale on a ship.
Wink wink. ;)
Just watched a movie about JFK.
Not even close with the New England accent.
The Kennedy boys had their own family accent. John Kerry, in order to enter politics, faked the Kennedy accent to make it seem like he was one of them. He's used it for so long that it's now completely natural for him to talk that way.

The Maine accent isn't anything like the Boston accent. And, the Boston accent weakens considerably the further from the city. I live 100 miles west of Boston, in a college town, where most students come from the eastern part of the state. When listening to them, I can generally tell (within about 10 miles) how close they live to Boston. The accent is as thick as possible at 0 to 10 miles and nearly disappears at about 50 to 60 miles away.

The few movies that supposedly depict it accurately are The Departed, The Fighter, Gone Baby Gone, and Spotlight. The accent itself is slowly disappearing, but one can tell how close someone grew up from Boston by their "r"s. They drop them from the end of many words (pahk the cah in Hahvahd yahd), and add them to many others (pizzer, tuner). It gets complicated, as the adding of "r"s is called a linking r, where it's usually added to the end of words ending in vowels, and where the next word begins with a vowel.

Perhaps when young, they swallowed their alphabet soup the wrong way.

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Mon Dec 27, 2021 2:33 pm

Off the rails with a question. Tormato, my dad was from Waterbury and we were out there often as kids. He was Irish and many of his close friends were Italian. The Irish had that thick Connecticut slang. The Italian's not so much. Even as a kid, this was obvious to me. I always assumed that the native language was often spoken in families which could have muddied up the waters. I've always been able to pick out a regional dialect even though I'm from the midwest. The Boston lingo is unmistakable. It's like they all got off the same boat. Hope no one is offended. My mom was Lebanese and we heard Arabic spoken growing up. That New England chawda slang coming out of someone with a Lebanese background, well maybe not.

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Thu Dec 30, 2021 5:34 pm

Where I am from, there's a different accent almost in every bay.
In my Dad's home, where I live, dropping the r's was part of it and adding them, but a few miles down the road you'll get something different. They were English not Irish @bjbebs , as it happens, but there's a ton of variation in both Irish and English afaik here. Small isolated bays, I guess you spoke as it was in the place you grew up. :)
There is a Lebanese community here since generations past, but IDK what accent they adopted for english as they are on the west coast.

I'm eating chicken heart stew tonight - the 'cheap eaten' of former days and what a comfort food it is. It's so good I pay full price whenever I can get them now, even if I buy most everything else on special. Their status as a comfort food is unchallenged, in spite of the price!
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Fri Dec 31, 2021 8:47 am

Bower wrote: Thu Dec 30, 2021 5:34 pm Where I am from, there's a different accent almost in every bay.
In my Dad's home, where I live, dropping the r's was part of it and adding them, but a few miles down the road you'll get something different. They were English not Irish @bjbebs , as it happens, but there's a ton of variation in both Irish and English afaik here. Small isolated bays, I guess you spoke as it was in the place you grew up. :)
There is a Lebanese community here since generations past, but IDK what accent they adopted for english as they are on the west coast.

I'm eating chicken heart stew tonight - the 'cheap eaten' of former days and what a comfort food it is. It's so good I pay full price whenever I can get them now, even if I buy most everything else on special. Their status as a comfort food is unchallenged, in spite of the price!
Is it the economics of the butcher's work to produce a pound/kilo of chicken hearts, or do you have foodies up there ruining things, or both?

The foodies, here, ruined my cheap eaten' comfort food, oxtail soup/stew.

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Fri Dec 31, 2021 9:05 am

Tormato wrote: Fri Dec 31, 2021 8:47 am
Bower wrote: Thu Dec 30, 2021 5:34 pm Where I am from, there's a different accent almost in every bay.
In my Dad's home, where I live, dropping the r's was part of it and adding them, but a few miles down the road you'll get something different. They were English not Irish @bjbebs , as it happens, but there's a ton of variation in both Irish and English afaik here. Small isolated bays, I guess you spoke as it was in the place you grew up. :)
There is a Lebanese community here since generations past, but IDK what accent they adopted for english as they are on the west coast.

I'm eating chicken heart stew tonight - the 'cheap eaten' of former days and what a comfort food it is. It's so good I pay full price whenever I can get them now, even if I buy most everything else on special. Their status as a comfort food is unchallenged, in spite of the price!
Is it the economics of the butcher's work to produce a pound/kilo of chicken hearts, or do you have foodies up there ruining things, or both?

The foodies, here, ruined my cheap eaten' comfort food, oxtail soup/stew.
That's why I don't like to put myself in the same category as the neo foodies.
I have been eating this stuff all my life.
It also breaks my heart to see ethnic groups have many of their traditional foods skyrocket in price due to the demand of rich people that saw something on a cooking show by a celebrity chef.
It's not on purpose but an inconvenient byproduct.

Another is the fact many people are simply looking for and learning how to cook this food due to inflation.
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Fri Dec 31, 2021 10:07 am

@Tormato I honestly don't know whether those two are factors or some other cause. I can say that both hearts and chicken livers, which used to be a mainstay of 'cheap eaten' as the always cheaper meats, are never sold in bulk packages like other meats; they also are not always available, only appearing from time to time. So they're not being marketed to foodies at least not in this supermarket. They do now have an 'ethnic food' section where you see everything from oxtails to beef heart to aussie lamb. Our chicken is locally grown. I don't see any imports of chicken in my grocery store except for prepared frozen products. So the question is, where are the hearts and livers going, if they're not being offered for sale except occasionally at the price of $11/kilo. Do they have another market for those, outside of the food market? Or as you say, is it butcher work not worth the expected sales, and perhaps they even discard it... I really don't know. :(
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Fri Dec 31, 2021 10:27 am

@Bower , since your chicken is mainly grown there, could it be that there just aren't a ton of local chickens being processed and so fewer livers and hearts available? Did they used to be available all the time? Chicken livers aren't hard to find around here and most grocery stores have them fresh in plastic cups. It's been a while since I bought some so I can't remember how much in a cup; maybe 12 oz or 16 oz? Under $2.00 US. I'll have to check next time I'm in the store. Maybe I'll go into sticker shock. :o

We don't find packages of hearts in the meat case but do have gizzards which I love to fry up. Occasionally there's will be a heart or two that snuck in there. :)

$11 Canadian for a kilo. Let's see, $11 divided by $1.28 exchange rate = $8.59 US. Divide that by 2.2 lb/kilo and that comes to $3.90 US per pound. Did I do that right? Wow, that's high!

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Fri Dec 31, 2021 12:20 pm

@GoDawgs yup, the cost of all food is high here across the board, compared to probably anywhere on the mainland, only worse in Labrador and the far north.
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Tue Jan 04, 2022 6:21 pm

Leftover Christmas ham 4 red jalapeños and a habanero.
Shell macaroni and easy melt cheese.
Simple and filling
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Wed Jan 05, 2022 6:28 pm

Ya got leftover pasta from yesterday.
Whatta gonna do?
You take an onion and slow cook it till caramelized but not burned.
You stuff some precooked pablano chilies with last night's meal and bake it in a hot oven with bacon on top.
Then you put the onions on top of that.
This should be rather tasty.
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Thu Jan 06, 2022 5:52 pm

I had a hankering for fried chicken.
Cooking in the deep skillet.
More later.
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Thu Jan 06, 2022 6:29 pm

Came up with a spice mix.
Knorrs chicken bullion, black pepper, Chipotle powder and garlic powder.
Used this on the fried chicken above and in the gravy I made.
Also made a batter dipped sort of fried potato thing with the leftover spices flour and egg wash for the chicken.
I keep this concoction on the counter at all times.

I also discovered my idea of the perfect combination of flour to corn starch ratio is 3 parts flour to 1 part corn starch.
In other words 1/4 cup corn starch to 3/4 cup flour.
This gives the right amount of crunch.
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Fri Jan 07, 2022 7:49 am

Bower wrote: Fri Dec 31, 2021 10:07 am @Tormato I honestly don't know whether those two are factors or some other cause. I can say that both hearts and chicken livers, which used to be a mainstay of 'cheap eaten' as the always cheaper meats, are never sold in bulk packages like other meats; they also are not always available, only appearing from time to time. So they're not being marketed to foodies at least not in this supermarket. They do now have an 'ethnic food' section where you see everything from oxtails to beef heart to aussie lamb. Our chicken is locally grown. I don't see any imports of chicken in my grocery store except for prepared frozen products. So the question is, where are the hearts and livers going, if they're not being offered for sale except occasionally at the price of $11/kilo. Do they have another market for those, outside of the food market? Or as you say, is it butcher work not worth the expected sales, and perhaps they even discard it... I really don't know. :(
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Sat Jan 08, 2022 9:02 am

Whole Foods is buying up all the livers hearts and gizzards to make hand crafted artisan sausage at 20 dollars a pound.
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Sat Jan 08, 2022 9:11 am

Grilled chicken livers are divine. Very easy to over cook and ruin, though. Grilled chicken hearts are great, too. When Brazilan Steakhouses were the thing, that was my favorite thing they did, grilled chicken hearts on a skewer.
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Tue Jan 18, 2022 5:11 pm

In the other thread I marinated and cooked a roast in Port wine with a baked sweet potato.
Well that's over.
My true intentions were to make a big stew.
I cooked cut carrots in water.
Once the carrots were cooked i cooked some russet potatoes and onions in the carrot water.
Cut up the roast into chunks and put into the pot of wine sauce I made.
Put the vegetables and cooking water into the mix and had supper.
That left me enough room tonight to add the canned Green beans and frozen sweet corn into the mix.
Can't wait for it to all heat up.
One of my top ten favorite meals and will serve me well in the upcoming cold weather this week.
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Tue Jan 18, 2022 6:43 pm

Simple food with a fancy name.
Sopa De Conchitas Con Carne.
Soup and conch shell pasta with meat.
Absolutely fabulous.
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Wed Feb 02, 2022 9:13 pm

I didn't eat this today, but I got something started today, that I've gotten a taste for after trimming all that stuff from my hydroponics, and saw all that basil! This is something that I usually do in the summer, but I've done it before, with these frozen tomatoes. Tomorrow will be the warmest day (though I won't be opening the windows! lol), so I'll finish it then. All the tomatoes, garlic, and basil are grown here!

I've got a bunch of those tomatoes in the freezer! I just thaw them for about 30 minutes, then halve most them, and cut the larger ones up a little more.
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ImageGenerous amount of basil, from hydroponics, for the raw tomato pasta. by pepperhead212, on Flickr

ImageGarlic, basil, EVOO, and tomatoes, ready to chill overnight, for the raw tomato pasta. by pepperhead212, on Flickr

I also cooked about 3 c chickpeas today, about 1½ dry, and another jar I was trying to empty, and get off the shelf. Those will go in with the pasta, at the end of boiling, and added to the raw tomato mix, along with fish sauce.

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Fri Feb 04, 2022 10:35 am

The cup version of Elotes and easier to eat.
Elotes is a Mexican street corn roasted on the cob on a grill.
It is then slathered with mayonnaise then rolled in cotija cheese and dusted with chili powder of some sort.
A popular one is a product called Tajin.
It comes with lime and citric acid in it plus dried chilies.
With Esquites you simply mix it up in a cup or bowl.
Mine has added fresh cilantro.
The corn was frozen corn because there isn't really any fresh around.
Toasted in a hot dry cast iron skillet with no oil.
If you want something authentic you simply must try this.
Takes corn to a whole new level.
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Fri Feb 04, 2022 10:41 am

My son just got introduced to Tajin. He works with folks from Monterrey, Mexico and they love Tajin on fruit and especially watermelon. I love that Mexican street corn.
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