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Fri Mar 25, 2022 11:32 am

The ladies family are from Norway but she won't eat sardines or kippered herring.
So I guess that heritage got lost along the way.
I would eat all the vegetables raw before my mom could get home from the store.
Was raised on fresh caugt fish to a huge amount.
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Fri Mar 25, 2022 2:52 pm

I don't care for sardines or kippered herring. That surprises you that anyone does not like what you do? I know people that don't like any seafood, but I like many different kinds. I know people that like few vegetables, but I like many although not all. People don't like things for many reasons. Sometimes a taste thing, sometimes a consistency thing, sometimes just can't get past the visual. Some people just like to stick with the familiar. If you hate fish and seafood you don't have to try every creature in the ocean to decide that. If you like sticking with familiar, you might not feel the need to keep trying new things, you are happy just eating what you already know you like. If it is a consistency thing, and you hate fish because of the consistency for example, you don't have to try every one to conclude you are not going to like it. I love fried clam strips, can't stand them with the bellies or steamers, a consistency thing. Don't want to eat squid. No desire to try bugs. Don't care if I haven't tried bugs, not gonna eat them, A visual thing.

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Fri Mar 25, 2022 3:40 pm

Cajuns, the French Acadians of South and Southwest Louisiana have a reputation for eating almost anything and making almost anything taste really good. My BIL is one of them from Crowley, LA, about dead center in the heart of Cajun country and with a last name like DeCuir, about as Cajun as you can get, well, you might expect he’d be this great adventurous eater that would go for trying anything, but he’s actually quite picky. I’ve been on an extended trip with him in a foodie town and he’s like just give me some meat and potatoes please. It can be a bit of a let down to travel with people that want to go to some familiar chain restaurant over a great local place, I’m sure from their perspective it’s reversed. My SIL, the taste of the food seems to have no impact on her. She might as well eat soylent green or something, she eats simply to survive, there’s little joy obtained from eating. My dad’s sister is the same way. She’s like 6 feet tall and 100 pounds. She barely eats enough to survive. A party at her house, it’s been decades, but you had better eat ahead of time. Twenty people might be there and there’s enough food for three.

Oatmeal puts me off. It’s mostly a textural thing. It’s like eating wet cement. I hate it. Sure, if I was starving, I’d eat it, but if there’s a choice, I’m choosing almost anything else. Millions of people eat oatmeal and seem to love it, I’m not one of them.

There’s no understanding food and what people will eat or like to eat. I couldn’t understand how my daughter survived childhood. If it wasn’t a chicken nugget or a french fry, she would not eat it. It was a Hill for her to die on. Now, she loves food of all sorts. She’s apparently healthy.

Food is a big part of our, my wife and I, life. We like to eat and like to cook. All of it is fun. Our friends are like this. Getting together to enjoy a meal of delicious and interesting food is great. I figure I should go with how I was made. I respond positively to certain foods. Exploring Food is fun. My BIL that likes mostly boring food loves golf, golf is fun for him. Golf is mostly boring for me. I’ll watch some golf, I’ve played golf, watching golf puts me to sleep. Playing golf seems to be an excuse to drink, in my experience.

There’s no accounting for tastes.
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Sat Mar 26, 2022 12:21 pm

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Not it doesn't surprise me that someone doesn't like the same things I do.
That's not the point of the conversation.
The point was some people don't seem to like anything.
Thus wondering how they managed to not starve to death.
It was ment to be comedic.
The other point was some people don't seem to know when to stop telling you they don't like something to the point it is rudeness.
I remember a guy brought link smoked salmon sausage to work in Alaska.
He caught the fish and made it himself.
I don't particularly care for fishy stuff but was willing to try.
It was good.
Then another Texan showed up and he said lord no.
I explained to the guy that I felt the same way and tried it.
And it was good.
Well if you tried I will.
So he took a taste.
His eyes glaze over and wanted more.
This is really good the guy exclaimed.
Who would have thought?

Most of the guys I work with will try anything at least once.
My beloved coworker tried a date once.
He didn't care for it so I don't force it on him.
Nor does he continue to say how horrible they are when I eat one.
It's called manners and being polite.
No body is passing judgment here.
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Sat Mar 26, 2022 12:46 pm

Now to continue on.
When I made the comment, you can't say you don't like Mexican food.
I'm referring to individuals that have only eaten at Mexican restaurants in Texas or other places.
Contrary to popular ideology Mexicans or called improperly Hispanics aren't born with a hot pepper in one hand and a tortilla in the other.
I know a ton that don't like really hot food.
When asked if I only had one type of regional food to eat for the rest of my life I always reply Mexican food.
Simply because it is so diverse in nature.
Just as diverse as food in the US.
Influenced from all over the world from when it was called New Spain.
East Asia Germany Spain Lebanon Jewish people.
The list of countries could go on forever.
You want a sandwich ask for a torta.
Derived from the word for a tortoise from which the bread looks like.
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Sat Mar 26, 2022 3:18 pm

I find conversations like that interesting. I would ask them what their favorite foods are, do you like vegetables, which vegetables do you like? I might find their choices not to my liking or unfamiliar to me or even boring, but it creates a starting point where you find out which food preferences you do have in common. I don't have children but I have had to ask those kinds of questions about my 7 nieces and nephews for instance, when I tried to figure out what I could feed them. I have family members that have food dislikes so strong they won't allow the food into their house even if there are going to be other people there that do like those things. So I stopped being frustrated by it (most of the time anyway, lol), and approach it from a perspective of trying to find out what we do have in common.

Yes going on and on about how much you hate something can be rude but I didn't see that in your post. Last night I was eating a pizza with my Mother when my younger sister walked in and said "oh gross, well Mom must like that anyway". I don't really seed the need to call other people's food gross, but I just let it go. My sister lives with my Mother, won't eat any type of sausage, onions, or peppers, and not sure about mushrooms. My Mother said it was the first "good" pizza she had had in a while, lol.

It can be difficult not to offend someone when they keep bringing up food you don't like. It would have been nice if they instead said, "but I do enjoy...". Either way, now I am curious what you would learn if did ask them what they liked. Maybe they are just old fashioned Meat and Potatoes types.

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Sat Mar 26, 2022 3:45 pm

Sue_CT wrote: Sat Mar 26, 2022 3:18 pm I find conversations like that interesting. I would ask them what their favorite foods are, do you like vegetables, which vegetables do you like? I might find their choices not to my liking or unfamiliar to me or even boring, but it creates a starting point where you find out which food preferences you do have in common. I don't have children but I have had to ask those kinds of questions about my 7 nieces and nephews for instance, when I tried to figure out what I could feed them. I have family members that have food dislikes so strong they won't allow the food into their house even if there are going to be other people there that do like those things. So I stopped being frustrated by it (most of the time anyway, lol), and approach it from a perspective of trying to find out what we do have in common.

Yes going on and on about how much you hate something can be rude but I didn't see that in your post. Last night I was eating a pizza with my Mother when my younger sister walked in and said "oh gross, well Mom must like that anyway". I don't really seed the need to call other people's food gross, but I just let it go. My sister lives with my Mother, won't eat any type of sausage, onions, or peppers, and not sure about mushrooms. My Mother said it was the first "good" pizza she had had in a while, lol.

It can be difficult not to offend someone when they keep bringing up food you don't like. It would have been nice if they instead said, "but I do enjoy...". Either way, now I am curious what you would learn if did ask them what they liked. Maybe they are just old fashioned Meat and Potatoes types.
Just because you don't see it or read it doesn't mean it isn't there or has happened.
Better to ask questions than make assumptions.
I can't possibly type out the many hours adding up to days of conversation I have had with my neighbor lady and her son.
The don't like Mexican food turned into a conversation about the many things he hadn't heard of.
And to saying he liked the food in Mexico.

My love of sardines and such comes from my family keeping them for lunch in the truck while out on the place building fencing all day.
Eat or starve.
Believe it or not I never had a crispy taco until I was in California.
I was flabbergasted.
I was raised on soft corn tortilla tacos and homemade flour tortillas for breakfast with eggs.
First baby tooth came my first tamale and hot pepper.
Maybe sooner.
Being slapped by a 3rd grade Missouri school teacher for putting hot sauce on my food in school isn't cool but it happened to me.
My mom was furious.

To this day I hold a grudge against that old bag for slapping me.
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Sat Mar 26, 2022 4:21 pm

In my life I have noticed the reason for some people to not eat something is because it comes from another culture.
I will respectfully call it.
Cultural culinary prejudice or CCP.
I've seen it from northerners from the northeast against southerners too many times.
I've seen it from people about catfish and black folks.
And yes again folks from the northeast.
Mexicans and Mexican food back in the 60's and 70's from various people of the Midwest.
Chinese food from people.
Italian food at one time was prejudiced against.
German food too.
It isn't they don't like the food, they have never had the food.
They simply won't eat it because another culture eats it.
My many black friends were flabbergasted that I ate racoon and squirrels.
I had to explain to them I was raised on the same food they were raised on due to my culture.
The color of our skin was different but our culture was the same.
The same goes for Mexican food and similar culture.
So that's why I call it CCP.
It may look on the surface as racism but it goes much deeper than that.
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Sat Mar 26, 2022 5:57 pm

And sometimes it has nothing to do with race or culture, sometimes it has to do with the look, taste, smell or consistency of the food.
Not sure if you are inferring that because I am from the Northeast I am against Southerners? Because North Dakota is not in the Northeast, but I am. So are you making a point that people from the Northeast are prejudiced against Southerners and their food or you only have ever experienced this prejudice from people from the Northeast or are you inferring that because I am from the Northeast I am prejudiced? I just wonder why you chose to mention that since the conversation was I thought about neighbors from North Dakota.
By the way, I never said it didn't happen because you didn't write. it. I just could not have known that was a factor because you didn't write it and I wasn't there. So issues of rudeness were not something I "assumed". I had no reason to ask you about rudeness because it had not even entered the conversation.
You seem to have strong feelings about food, good and bad. I am kind of laid back about it. I love trying new things, but that does not mean that I am up to try anything, or that I am prejudiced against any cultures foods. I love "Tex-Mex" food, I have tried tamales and did not care for them. I did not care for Mole. I don't believe that makes me prejudiced against the foods of that culture. I have also encountered prejudice from people IN the South as well as people from the North and people of different races. I know there are prejudiced people in the Northeast, but I would never point them out specifically because it has been my experience that there are prejudiced people from all areas, and of all races
Again, YMMV. You may have good reason to assume these people are prejudiced against your cultural food choices. I don't, so I don't make that assumption. Different lived experiences, different conclusions.
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Sat Mar 26, 2022 6:17 pm

I like Northern New Mexican food more than some Tex-Mex. Fajitas I put into the Tex-Mex category and I love fajitas. I tend to like a New Mexican Roja enchilada sauce generally better than our local red sauce. The original Chuy’s at Barton Springs in Austin set the standard for Chili Relleno, though.

Who knows what incredible food can be found in Mexico. When I was a kid, we would drive to Mexican border towns and eat, but I bet that wasn’t Mexican food. I’ve been to Merida and other Mexican interior locales, but wasn’t into food back then as much.

Having lived for years in the Northeast, I know there’s great food being made there, like the same being true here. People are passionate about food and who can blame them, food is wonderful if you are into it.
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Sat Mar 26, 2022 6:28 pm

I love the Chili Relleno I make, lol! I use a Rachel Ray recipe, which may or may not be authentic, but I still love it. I alter it a bit to fit me but that is what cooking is all about. :)
I say Tex Mex because of the stereotypical sour cream and salsa or pico on everything, but I love that and make no apologies for it, lol. Nothing like Pico with fresh garden tomatoes in the summer. :)

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Sat Mar 26, 2022 6:31 pm

@karstopography
I can't count how many times I've ate at Chuy's on Barton Springs.
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Sat Mar 26, 2022 6:43 pm

The chili relleno comes from Puebla Mexico.
Meaning pepper stuffed.
Pico de Gallo means beak of the rooster.
If it was translated into English in a Mexican restaurant people wouldn't order it thinking they were going to order roosters beaks.
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Sun Mar 27, 2022 9:03 am

Sue_CT wrote: Sat Mar 26, 2022 6:28 pm I love the Chili Relleno I make, lol! I use a Rachel Ray recipe, which may or may not be authentic, but I still love it. I alter it a bit to fit me but that is what cooking is all about. :)
I say Tex Mex because of the stereotypical sour cream and salsa or pico on everything, but I love that and make no apologies for it, lol. Nothing like Pico with fresh garden tomatoes in the summer. :)
You should read the comments from Mexicans on her cooking Mexican food. :lol:
Some of these people are really hard headed when it comes to what you do and don't add to their cuisine.
Even then they fight among themselves over it.

At the Mexican taco trucks the construction workers can be really aggressive and rude.
They will try to root you out of the way like you don't belong there.
So to gain respect you have to root back.
Then they will back off and respect you.
Pretty weird.
I remember one guy fresh from Ohio that was working with us.
He went to the truck got rooted around and left as mad as a wet hen.
What's the matter.
He said they just cut in front of me.
I said then cut in front of them ya gotta be aggressive.
Get in there and get what you want.
It was so out of his comfort zone he couldn't do it.

This doesn't happen all the time and some places are very respectful.
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Sun Mar 27, 2022 9:14 am

Chuy’s uses large Anaheim peppers instead of Poblano peppers for their Relleno. I’ve never tried making my own.

Food trucks are showing up all over here. I go home for lunch if at all possible. My wife’s nephew wedding reception in Driftwood featured food trucks out under the big live oaks. I liked it. Beats the rubber chicken of the typical wedding any day of the week.
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Sun Mar 27, 2022 10:11 am

I can't count how many advantages there are to food trucks.
Mobility is a huge one.
But first and foremost the cost of a food truck compared to brick and mortar is way less.
Just in your example of them going to a wedding.
You can't do that with a static business stuck in some shopping center.
You can't go to events or anything.
You're stuck there while everyone is on the other side of town at the event.

I watched an episode on Shark Tank where the ladies wanted to expand from food truck to brick and mortar.
The Sharks wanted to help them with expansion of food trucks.
The ladies refused and insisted on brick and mortar.
No investment from the Sharks.
That spells volumes as to the risk of brick and mortar compared to food trucks.

I can't count how many times I've been told to start a food truck.
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Mon Mar 28, 2022 9:15 am

From comments on line it's about 50/50 in Mexico as to whether you use soy sauce in carne asada.
Some explode at the thought of it and others say the family has been using it for ages.
Mexico has a huge Asian influence whether some want to admit it or not.
This dates all the way back to the shipping route in the Pacific by Spain.
Not only did the Asians come along for the ride but they also brought their food.
Cilantro being but one.
This was called the Manila Galleon.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manila_galleon
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Tue Apr 05, 2022 6:25 am

Not food but I've been watching a guy from New Zealand make whiskey and other distilled spirits.
Very interesting to say the least.
Not your common bootlegger but someone that knows what they are doing.
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Fri Apr 15, 2022 2:42 pm

Wow I stacked up hours so I could get off early for Easter weekend.
I get to the storevand the parking lot is packed.
Someone took my favorite parking spot.
I had to wait on someone to leave so someone else could get yet another spot.
Cars backed up behind me.
No need to get upset I'll get my turn soon enough.
That guy gets out of the way and I make my move.
The lane next to me going the other direction had a spot two cars from the front of the store.
Slid right in.
Did my Easter shopping and got out in record time.
Had a nice lady in a new Mercedes stop so I could cross the lane after putting my cart away.
Looked at her and pointed to my truck .
Get the thumbs up and she let me back out so she could have my spot.
That's how we roll in small town Texas.
Happy Easter.
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Fri Apr 15, 2022 4:29 pm

worth1 wrote: Tue Apr 05, 2022 6:25 am Not food but I've been watching a guy from New Zealand make whiskey and other distilled spirits.
Very interesting to say the least.
Not your common bootlegger but someone that knows what they are doing.
That be Jesse, perhaps, “Still it” on YouTube?
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