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Tue Sep 28, 2021 9:38 pm

I'm glad that you@karstopography are able to enjoy the Texas system of locked up/leased/who you know land access. Truly, it is not for me. I grew up romping in corn fields and creeks with permission gained by asking. I would not have been able to afford a lease, nor even would my brother with his paper route. I think it should stay as it is, here in PA. Lots of public land, and responsible, permission based use of private land. Not lawyer's and banker's contracts.


My point regarding hunting in this thread is that for keeping deer from destroying one's garden, a key is to keep the population in check. The best way to do that is to get responsible, licensed hunters to help - aka, your neighbors. Whether that is on your own 3 acre plot, or the neighbor's woods, every gardener can help themselves by talking to their community to increase hunter access. Even if laws need to be changed. In PA the safety zone for bowhunting near residences or businesses is a mere 50 yards. That is how safe it is. A properly bow shot deer runs 30-70 yds in the 7 seconds after the arrow hits, before it falls. Even small plots of land can be hunted with cooperation. Afterwards you have somewhere from 25-50 lbs or more of lean, healthy meat, and lots of memories.

Also, it is really important to gets kids involved in nature, both flora and fauna, in this world of terribly encroaching tech. Like gardening, hunting does not need to be expensive, and many states have youth programs to encourage kids to venture afield.

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Wed Sep 29, 2021 6:03 am

If I had a deer I would turn the whole thing mixed with pork into tamales.
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Wed Sep 29, 2021 1:41 pm

@worth1 that sounds like a delicious idea. Now, thats a lot of tamales by my reckoning.....
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Wed Sep 29, 2021 6:06 pm

Amateurinawe wrote: Wed Sep 29, 2021 1:41 pm @worth1 that sounds like a delicious idea. Now, thats a lot of tamales by my reckoning.....
There was a lady that made tamales when I was a kid and that's exactly what we did with at least one of the deer my dad shot on our place every year.
I probably cut my baby teeth on deer tamales. :lol:
Shot my first deer with a wildcat gun called a 30 Gibbs.
You couldn't buy ammunition you had to make it.
I made and hand loaded my own for that deer.
I had just turned 13 years old.
The 30 Gibbs is a modified 30-06 cartridge that holds more powder.
Awesome hunting cartridge.
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Thu Sep 30, 2021 10:35 pm

I have to ask, simply because I have no clue, what the 2nd and 3rd cases supposed to be? 2nd is 35 whelen?
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Fri Oct 01, 2021 7:29 am

JRinPA wrote: Thu Sep 30, 2021 10:35 pm I have to ask, simply because I have no clue, what the 2nd and 3rd cases supposed to be? 2nd is 35 whelen?
It looks like it.
No idea why they would go that route.
We used military 3006 cases and blew them out for the steeper angle and longer shoulder.
Started helping my dad do this when I was about 4 or 5 years old.
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Fri Oct 01, 2021 12:24 pm

Wonder what calibers/manner most folks hunt or have shot or harvested deer?

My favorite whitetail caliber is 30-30 Winchester, at least for short range stalk/still hunting in cover. Open sights, old model 94. That’s if I want to enjoy the hunt, setting up the stalk is the fun part. No one I know uses shotguns for deer, but I know that’s popular in some areas. I like the option to make a clean neck or head shot. Drop that deer in its tracks.
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Sat Oct 02, 2021 8:48 am

karstopography wrote: Fri Oct 01, 2021 12:24 pm Wonder what calibers/manner most folks hunt or have shot or harvested deer?

My favorite whitetail caliber is 30-30 Winchester, at least for short range stalk/still hunting in cover. Open sights, old model 94. That’s if I want to enjoy the hunt, setting up the stalk is the fun part. No one I know uses shotguns for deer, but I know that’s popular in some areas. I like the option to make a clean neck or head shot. Drop that deer in its tracks.
25-06 and 30 Gibbs for me.
I have an old 25-06 built back before Remington adopted the cartridge.
Yes another wildcat. :lol:
Everything high velocity and very long range.
Since I hand loaded ammunition for people and repaired rifles I have had the opportunity to shoot all manner of makes and models.
Some really expensive some not so expensive.
One of my favorites was a raggedy old beat up 30-30 an old black man up the street brought to me to sight in.
It had a scope on it.
I took it out that morning did my job and gave it back to him.
Didn't charge him anything.
He got his deer that afternoon.
I did a lot of free and discount work for my little neighborhood I lived in.
Many people on fixed incomes and so on that depended on the meat for food.
Not just deer but all manner of critters like squirrel and raccoon.
One old guy in his 70's down from Houston to get his double barrel shotgun fixed.
The rich places in Houston said they couldn't fix it.
Its broken and will never work again.
I looked up the schematics and discovered who made it and got another firing pin for it.
It had Sears on it but another well known company made it.
Charged the guy 10 dollars.
He was so happy his old shotgun was fixed and that was payment enough for me.
I even took him out to the gun club and let him shoot my long range target rifles at 600 yards.
Can't count how many one gallon water jugs I have killed.
To me it's putting the bullet on target very far away so nothing has to die to prove I can shoot.
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Thu Nov 04, 2021 6:59 pm

You're a good man Worth. :)

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Sun Nov 07, 2021 9:08 am

karstopography wrote: Fri Oct 01, 2021 12:24 pm Wonder what calibers/manner most folks hunt or have shot or harvested deer?

My favorite whitetail caliber is 30-30 Winchester, at least for short range stalk/still hunting in cover. Open sights, old model 94. That’s if I want to enjoy the hunt, setting up the stalk is the fun part. No one I know uses shotguns for deer, but I know that’s popular in some areas. I like the option to make a clean neck or head shot. Drop that deer in its tracks.
There are so many calibers now...in the 90s hunting with the gang, I'd say most had 3006 or 270, and mostly Remington pumps. We're not allowed autoloaders here for deer, though sadly, it is coming. So Rem pumps were king for deer drives. Once in a while an invited yahoo would show up with something like a 300 win mag bolt gun with a huge scope and the hicks would snicker. Especially shooting the tire. For practice/fun the weekend before, we'd shoot a tire with cardboard in the center, rolled and bouncing down a hill. I'm sure there was some wagering involved that went over my head at that age.

My dad was partial to 25 cal as he got older, so us kids shoot a few 25s on deer. 100 gr soft points around 2800 to 3000 fps out of them. Deer here don't need more if you have a proper angle to shoot. But some areas are "special regs areas", which includes muzzleloaders or shotguns with slugs. So for those areas we use 50 cal inlines, that shoot .45 cal bullets in a plastic sabot @ 1800-1900 fps. Muzzleloaders are of course a single shot, but we sometimes manage two deer from the same group, reloading in the treestand. Most of my deer nowadays are killed during archery season, inside 30 yards. I got my buck a couple weeks back. 55lbs went toward sweet bologna, plus some steaks. Can't do that with paper targets...I have a doe from a few days ago hanging out back right now, since it got cold enough to hang. I'm getting the grinder out today; I'm thinking ring bologna. I have a bunch of pastrami in a the fridge ready to smoke as well.

This past week the number of deer hit on the road has skyrocketed due to the rut starting combined with the colder weather. It is good time to start driving a bit slower in the evening and the early morning hours.
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Sun Nov 07, 2021 11:26 am

I used to load a 300 Winchester magnum for someone with 180 grain Nosler ballistic tips with a compressed load of H 1000
Very accurate and slowed the bullet down to about 2900 fps.
Shots were out to around 300 yards.
My 30-06 I use a compressed load of 61 grains H 4350 behind a 150 grain nosler ballistic tip for a velocity of 3000 fps.
It's little Browning A Bolt Medallion I picked up like brand new for about 300 dollars less than a new one.
It even came in the box.
It kicks like 5 mules all at one time because it is so light.
I new immediately why it was traded in.. :lol:
But I don't mind and it shoots 3/8ths groups or better at 100 yards.
That's 3.75 inches at 1000 yards.
Or 2.250 at 600.
I bought it to make a 300 Winchester magnum but it shoots so sweet I couldn't do it.

It has a scope on it I picked up used for less than half the price it went for.
It a Shepherd DRS.
They go for around $1000 now.
Here's what you see in the scope.
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Sun Nov 07, 2021 11:51 am

It's rutting season here. Three large bucks with beautiful racks were walking down my driveway when I got home last night. I had to honk at them to get them moving. Even though our herd was culled by 53 during the spring, the herd is large and is eating things that they just do not like, such as milkweed. If they are doing this while the plants are still green then winter is going to be devastating to our trees and bushes. Last year the devoured the spruce trees to as high as they could reach. They have eaten everything palatable to them. There is a highway close by that has blocked them in. I don't know if they are planning on a fall culling or not. For everyone's sake including the deer, I hope that they do.
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