I'm gonna try Bokashi!

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I'm gonna try Bokashi!

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Post: # 85270Unread post peebee
Mon Dec 19, 2022 7:06 pm

I'm excited to be trying something new again, this time bokashi. Unlike composting, bokashi is more like fermenting, and you can add practically anything that you would not put in a compost bin or pile, such as meat, cheese, even bones.
Anyone else doing bokashi? I've been watching lots of YouTube videos & researching online also.
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Mon Dec 19, 2022 8:31 pm

I’ve heard of it … intriguing. Good luck!
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Post: # 85290Unread post pepperhead212
Mon Dec 19, 2022 11:18 pm

I was interested in that, too, though I haven't tried it yet. I figured I'll have to do it behind the shed in the summer - since it's anaerobic, I'm concerned about the odors!

Here's an interesting article, and another they give on how to put it together, with two 5 gal buckets.
https://www.thespruce.com/basics-of-bok ... ng-2539742

https://www.thespruce.com/making-an-ine ... et-2539616
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Tue Dec 20, 2022 6:23 am

This sounds like a really interesting project and I will be watching for updates! Gamma lids would be perfect for this making it a lot easier to open the bucket for addition of more stuff than the snap on lids. I had to replace the spigot on my wine making bucket and the spigots came in a pack of four so I've already got one if I decide to try this.

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Tue Dec 20, 2022 7:14 am

We've been doing bokashi for quite a few years now. It's not a silver bullet for food waste, the stuff comes out of the bucket looking pretty much the same as it did went it went in. The benefit is that it breaks down much faster in a compost pile/dug into soil and it's a good way to store cooked food/animal food waste safely until you can use it. It does smell when you open the bucket, but it's more of a tangy, weird, sweet odour than full on anaerobic stink. The liquid is very acidic so I don't use it directly on plants, it just gets chucked somewhere in the flower borders.

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Tue Dec 20, 2022 4:16 pm

@rossomendblot , how soon after applying the bokashi bran do you look at it? I've seen a friend's waste & it was almost entirely decomposed after about 3 weeks in ground. I figure I would need at least 2 weeks for the fermentation to begin if done directly in ground, buried. Then another 2 to 3 weeks to see results.
And yes like you I will add some to my compost bins.

I also will bokashi in a 2 bucket system to get the liquid. My soil is very alkaline so an acidic liquid might be beneficial. The smell is yeasty, not unpleasant (at least to my nose).
Thanks for everyone's input, I can't wait for my supplies to arrive.
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Tue Dec 20, 2022 4:28 pm

You will nose if it goes wrong.

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Tue Dec 20, 2022 5:55 pm

@GoDawgs yes I'll look into those gamma lids after I decide if I want to continue bokashi-ing. I already had a bucket with a spout, plus another with drainage holes to put on top. I'm trying not to buy unnecessary stuff for now. But those lids are definitely on my radar. Until then, a regular lid with a rock on top will have to do. Thanks.
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Wed Dec 21, 2022 5:03 am

peebee wrote: Tue Dec 20, 2022 4:16 pm @rossomendblot , how soon after applying the bokashi bran do you look at it? I've seen a friend's waste & it was almost entirely decomposed after about 3 weeks in ground. I figure I would need at least 2 weeks for the fermentation to begin if done directly in ground, buried. Then another 2 to 3 weeks to see results.
And yes like you I will add some to my compost bins.

I also will bokashi in a 2 bucket system to get the liquid. My soil is very alkaline so an acidic liquid might be beneficial. The smell is yeasty, not unpleasant (at least to my nose).
Thanks for everyone's input, I can't wait for my supplies to arrive.
We fill a bin, top it with the bran then forget about it until it's time to dump it in the compost, which can be a few weeks or a couple of months. We don't have any empty soil space to do it in ground, I'd probably have to start digging up the lawn (and I've done a lot of that already!).

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Wed Dec 21, 2022 11:49 pm

I think & hope I'll see results faster if I do as I've seen online, where you add the bokashi bran after each addition to the container, mashing it all down & covering the surface before closing the lid. That way you should be applying the bran several times before the bucket is filled. I mainly want to bury the fermented waste in my large pots of spent potting soil to revive it all. I'll add other things too like worm castings & amendments.
I ordered a 20 lb bag of bran but I won't see it till about 3 weeks from now. That's ok as I'll be starting my seeds soon.
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Thu Dec 22, 2022 5:22 am

That's the way we do it too, thin layers of waste with a sprinkling of bran, compact with a potato masher, then a final bigger sprinkling on top when it's full. I have used it at the bottom of pots before, but I generally prefer to dump it all in the compost pile at once and cover it up quickly because I don't really like the smell and I don't want to bother my neighbours. The smell isn't that bad it's just strange. :lol:

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Sat Mar 11, 2023 8:59 pm

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Well here's an update pic of some of the finished Bokashi bran. I already packed a ziplock bag of the bran that easily dried into separate grains, but this is the remainder that I'm going to try to break down into finer pieces in a blender. The wheat bran I bought is too fine, so when mixed with the inoculant & water, fermented & dried, it doesn't dry back into the same fine texture. There are numerous rock hard clumps after I used a sieve.
Even if I can't get all to unclump I'll still use it. Next batch I'll use the bare amount of water & if that still produces hard to disintegrate lumps then I'll have to shop around for a coarser bran. I know I followed the recipe & didn't over water but I found out later from online reviews that this particular bran is more flour-like so that's the problem. It tried to become a bread dough lol.
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Thu May 04, 2023 11:26 am

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Pics of my Bokashi bucket set up, spigot on bottom for the liquid gold & the finished product being mixed into some potting mix.
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