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Sun Jul 10, 2022 12:30 am

Awesome! I hope she really works out. She gets the slightest bronze blush on the fruit but stays pretty green when ripe. Mine were dry grown and stayed smaller and flat. I
The taste was great though.
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Tue Jul 12, 2022 11:13 pm

@Julianna
Frog Princess isn't curling as much anymore (especially on the older growth), and when I went to count the fruits, I counted 15 before I lost track of which ones I had already counted (I'm sure it has more). It probably has the largest tomato plant in the garden.
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Tue Jul 12, 2022 11:40 pm

Here's a list of what has set fruit, so far, and when it did it:

- Amana Orange (B1A1; by 12 Jul)
- Amana Orange (B1A3; by 7 Jul)
- Amana Orange (B1A4; by 12 Jul)
- Amana Orange (B1A6; by 12 Jul)
- Amana Orange (B1A7; by 12 Jul)
- Big Cheef (by 12 Jul)
- Brandy Boy F11 (B; by 12 Jul)
- Brandy Boy F11 (B1; by 12 Jul)
- Brandy Boy F11 (B2; by 7 Jul)
- Brandywine Pink (by 12 Jul; multiple fruits)
- Broy_A (significantly before 7 Jul)
- Broy_A1 (by 8 Jul; multiple)
- Carbon (B0; recently before 7 Jul)
- Carolina Yellow (A; before Jul 7)
- Carolina Yellow (A0; by 1 Jul)
- Cherokee Yellow Perfection Peach (by 28 Jun)
- Frog Princess (by 23 Jun)
- Hamson (A; by 1 Jul)
- Italian Heirloom (before 7 Jul)
- MKX_B (10 Jun)
- MKX_B0 (before 7 Jul)
- MKX_B1 (by 29 Jun)
- Pearler_B (by 1 Jul)
- Pearler_B1 (by 1 Jul)
- Roma VF (A; by 7 Jul)
- Roma VF (A0; by 29 Jun)
- Roma VF (A1; by 7 Jul)
- Snacker_C (by 24 Jun)
- Snacker_C0 (by 24 Jun)
- Snacker_C1 (by 28 Jun)
- Snacker_C2 (by 29 Jun)
- Snacker_C3 (by 7 Jul)
- Snacker_C5 (by 11 Jul)
- Snacker_C6 (by 7 Jul)
- v22_A1 (before 7 Jul; probably a Snacker_ tomato, but it had extra large cotyledons)
- v22_A3 (by 7 Jul; probably Galapagos Island; it was one of the later volunteers that I kept to sprout, and in historically late-fruiting soil; Galapagos Island can be earlier than any other tomato I've grown, it seems)
- v22_A8 (by 20 Jun; probably Galapagos Island)
- v22_A9 (by 20 Jun; probably Galapagos Island)
- v22_A10 (by 22 Jun; probably Galapagos Island)
- Wuler_C (v22_A5; by 10 or 11 Jul; if you look at the picture of this earlier on, you'll see it's maturing and fruiting fast! Same for the next two, but especially this; probably a BSX cross)
- Wuler_C0 (v22_A6; by 10 or 11 Jul; probably a BSX cross)
- Wuler_C1 (v22_A7; by 7 Jul; probably a BSX cross)
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Tue Jul 12, 2022 11:45 pm

Here's the weather for today (12 Jul) and some previous days (to keep the fruit-setting record in my previous post in context):

20 Jun: 79/51 (no very hot temperatures before this point; up to 88 in Jun before this on the warmest days, but mostly cool)
21 Jun: 85/50
22 Jun: 92/49
23 Jun: 92/61
24 Jun: 86/54
25 Jun: 89/51
26 Jun: 95/49
28 Jun: 100/63
29 Jun: 89/62
30 Jun: 95/57
1 Jul: 97/65
2 Jul: 97/64
3 Jul: 90/68
4 Jul: 84/64
5 Jul: 93/58
6 Jul: 91/63

(The above are records from the historical weather today, but following are records I logged on the day I saw the weather; historical weather today says 7 Jul was 97/70; so, there are differences between the two.)

7 Jul: 95/65; UVI 9.1
8 Jul: 98/69; UVI was forecasted to be 10
9 Jul: 97/66; UVI 10
10 Jul: 93/70
11 Jul: 96/62; UVI 9
12 Jul: 102/68; UVI 9.6

Tomorrow is forecasted to be 102/70; UVI 10
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Wed Jul 13, 2022 8:52 am

I just gave all the peppers, tomatoes, and wonderberries a foliar spray of potassium sulfate. I'd probably wait a bit longer (a week or two), but the peppers really needed it (I could tell by how easily their leaves broke off), and there were loads of aphids on some of the tomatoes (potassium strengthens plants).

I used 1 tablespoon of potassium sulfate per 51oz of water in a hand-pump sprayer.
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Wed Jul 13, 2022 7:26 pm

Today: 101/69; UVI 9.2
Tomorrow: 103/69; UVI 10

I checked the plants, and the following have set fruit:

- All the wonderberries (many of them set fruit quite a while ago, but I didn't check all the plants to be sure until today)
- Hamson (A0)
- Nina_B0
- Pearler_B0
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Thu Jul 14, 2022 6:50 pm

The first tomato of the season is ripening! It's MKX_B's first fruit (also the first tomato plant to set fruit--the first one to set on the plant, too).

I'm expecting it to be either true yellow or red. However, I'm not sure which of those colors it's turning into, as it's kind of a light-orange-ish yellow (I would describe it as a honey yellow), currently.

The whole fruit is coloring at once.

So, it's ripening 33 days from fruit set, 54 days from transplant, 106 days from sprouting time, and 117 days from seeding time. Keep in mind I sprouted it outside (bringing it in when the weather was under 42 degrees F. at night), and it wasn't that big at transplant time, due to the cold. 54 days from transplant isn't bad! :) It's known ancestor (Medovaya Kaplya) is supposed to be 65 days.
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Thu Jul 14, 2022 8:33 pm

Here's my row of eight Amana Orange plants (on the right in the picture below), this year. You can kind of see two of the others in the back at the sides/corners (they're both in cages), but the smallest one is in another location and isn't pictured.

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The three big plants that are already overlapping each other on the left-hand side are three Galapagos Island volunteers. I guess they don't look that big in the picture, but that's because of the angle. They're huge already (uncaged). I believe most of what you see in the picture is one plant. The Wuler_ plants are in the same row as Galapagos Island, mostly out of view (you can see the tops of their cages). I'll have to prune the Galapagos Island tomatoes soon, since one or two of them are touching an Amana Orange tomato, already.
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Fri Jul 15, 2022 7:48 pm

MKX_B's fruit has turned yellow. So, both the leaf-type and the fruit-color should be stable. The fruits are basically round (not quite), so maybe that's stable too, but I'm not sure. It's kind of like an extra vigorous, larger-planted, earlier version of Snacker_, so far. We'll see how it tastes! However it turns out (even if it turns out that I prefer it to Snacker_), I still love Snacker_; it's a favorite (although it remains to be seen how much variation there is in taste).

The following tomatoes set fruit:
- Brandy Boy F11 (B0)
- Carbon (B)

The Gold Medal plant seems to have caught whatever Morsel_B had, although it wasn't wilting the entire plant (Morsel_B did touch it in that general area). I pulled it up.
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Sat Jul 16, 2022 9:25 am

The plants were looking extra thirsty (with some exceptions), so I watered them all (the peppers, tomatoes, and wonderberries). They look happy now. I water the peppers every two days, though; so, I'm not even close to dry farming them.

v22_A10 has two ripe fruits on it! This is fascinating, since it was the last of the three Galapagos Island volunteers in its row to set fruit. That's why I didn't mention that they looked a different shade of green yesterday and the day before. I haven't picked them, yet. The other plants still have the white-ish green that the completely unripe fruits have.

I'm about to dry the seeds from the first Cilantrovaya_A fruit (that's the same plant as MKX_B if you didn't get the memo in the MKX_ tomato project thread; it has a delayed aftertaste of fresh cilantro, and an instant aftertaste of fruity-ish honey, so I made a new project out of it, combining the word cilantro with part of Medovaya, which means honey in Russian--one of its ancestors is Medovaya Kaplya, which means honey drop). These aftertastes are really smells (not flavors), FYI; so, if you plug your nose, have the flu, or have difficulty smelling, you may not notice. As the fruit wasn't ripe enough, I still need to evaluate a riper one.

Frog Princess apparently had lots of weeds growing in its spot. Considering Frog Princess is huge and has set a lot of fruit, that's pretty impressive. I pulled up all the weeds; so, I'm curious to see how it responds. It started to sprawl yesterday or today, I believe; it was already kind of a sprawling bush; so, I was a bit surprised when it went to one side.

Brandy Boy F11 (B1) has at least 12 fruits that have set on it. It's doing the best of all the Brandy Boy F11s, even though it wasn't the biggest one pre-transplant.
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Tue Jul 19, 2022 8:12 pm

By yesterday, Canary Bell (A3) had set 5 fruits! (It had none when I checked on Saturday.) Canary Bell (A2) had also set a fruit.

7 out of 8 Snacker_ tomatoes are looking quite heat-tolerant; the bigger ones are setting lots of fruit. The other one hasn't set fruit, yet; I don't know if it's because of the heat (but the two smaller plants set fruit before it, and it's had flowers sitting there for a while). I'm fertilizing it well to try to speed it along.

Many of the tomatoes are looking quite heat-tolerant. Some are setting lots of fruits in the heat, so far, including (but not limited to) Cilantrovaya_A, MKX_B1, the larger Snacker_ tomatoes, Cherokee Yellow Perfection Peach, Italian Heirloom, Pearler_B, Brandy Boy F11 (B1), Roma VF (A, A0, and A1), Galapagos Island, and Broy_A1.

With Carolina Yellow, it hasn't produced a lot of flowers yet, but the ones it has produced are setting fruit nicely.

My experiment with fertilizing and caging a wispy oxheart is going excellently. (The wispy oxheart is Italian Heirloom; it's a blunt oxheart, apparently, and gets a wispy plant in my garden; it's not a cross, as I've tested multiple seed sources with the same results.) It's setting lots of fruit, probably with loads more to come, and has a nice big plant. It seems to fit better in a small cage than a non-wispy plant would. It's seeming to respond very nicely to the fertilizer added to the ground.

There are more yellow tomatoes ripening out there, as of yesterday (Cilantrovaya_A and probably the Galapagos Island tomatoes). We're letting them ripen at least a little longer, this time (but Galapagos Island tastes fine as soon as it fully yellows).
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Thu Jul 21, 2022 7:17 am

14 Jul: 103/68; UVI 9.4
15 Jul: 101/70; UVI was forecasted to be 10
16 Jul: 104/67; UVI 9.6; 13% humidity at 5:57 PM
17 Jul: 100/69; UVI was forecasted to be 10 with humidity humidity: morning 29%, afternoon 17%, evening 36%
18 Jul: 91/66 (I seem to remember the high actually being 93; the 91 number is from accuweather); UVI was forecasted to be 10 with humidity morning 28%, afternoon 13%, evening 35%
19 Jul: 98/55; UVI was forecasted to be 10 with humidity morning 24%, afternoon 13%, evening 36%
20 Jul: 103/60
21 Jul (today): 103/65; UVI 9.4
22 Jul: 99/63; UVI 9.3
23 Jul: 99/64; UVI 8.8

By yesterday, all the peppers, except the eastmost one had set fruit. Nina_B had also set fruit.
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Thu Jul 21, 2022 11:51 am

I take back what I said about Italian Heirloom being a blunt oxheart. At least in my garden, it's a full oxheart! It's a wonder no vendor mentions its fruit shape.
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Thu Jul 21, 2022 9:28 pm

All the Amana Orange tomatoes in the row of 8 have set fruit, except the westmost one, by the fence.
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Sat Jul 23, 2022 8:35 pm

Snacker_C3 set fruit, so I guess it's just a later Snacker_ or something. It has lots of flowers.

The Canary Bell pepper that set lots of fruits has gotten Ber in two or three of them, already. I've never seen BER happen with fruits so young. It's probably due to a nutrient issue (maybe they actually do need more calcium), mild disease, or something. There seem to be a lot of thrips and aphids in the garden. There were whiteflies earlier in the season. The thips don't seem visible, this time of year, but I saw some pretty big ones when it was cooler and wet.

I haven't given them any wood ash, this year. I figured I'd go without considering I gave the soil there three handfuls last year, and possibly the year before, too. But, maybe they need it after all. If they don't need the calcium, it's probably either nitrogen or magnesium that they need. I've been watering the peppers at least every two days, for the most part.
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Sat Jul 23, 2022 8:38 pm

We tasted a riper CIlantrovaya_A fruit. It was really good. Most of the flavor, however, was actually the sort of smell that seems like taste, but it was a really good smell (which made the tomato seem a lot sweeter than it was).

I would describe the taste/smell as a mix between Esterina F1 and Coyote.

There wasn't a cilantro aftertaste for the more-ripe one.
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Wed Jul 27, 2022 3:20 am

Yesterday, I noitced that all but five of the wonderberry volunteers on my garden map had ripe fruit! I'm excited. I haven't harvested them, yet. I like them as soon as they ripen, but if you leave them on longer the flavor improves further (but they get softer, too).

I didn't check the transplanted ones, but it would be unusual if they were ripe now, since those volunteers had a headstart over them.
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Wed Jul 27, 2022 3:23 am

I'm transplanting the watermelons into containers. I'm atrociously late in transplanting them (it was too cold to transplant them for a long time, but by the time I could, I was considering not doing so, since the plants didn't look so healthy, due to the soil I used), but I thought I'd do it anyway, in the containers instead of the ground. I guess we're going to solarize the soil where I planned to put them.

I took the soil out of some containers. It was super hard and didn't absorb water easily (no wonder the peppers didn't do very well in it last year); there was also moss around the sides; so, I broke it apart. Then, I mixed in fertilizer, wood ash, vinegar, lots of perlite, and water. I put in enough water for it to mix around easily before I added the perlite (it was more soil-like after that). Then I let it sit for a day. The vinegar is an experiment (the whole thing is, actually), but if nothing else, I'm sure it'll react with the wood ash. The hope was it would reduce the pH and increase nutrient availability (I know some people say such doesn't happen with vinegar, but I don't know a scientific explanation as to why it wouldn't be the case; so, I wanted to test it). I only had enough perlite for four containers; so, I probably won't have that to mix with the rest of them, yet.

We'll see how the watermelons like it. I've never grown them in 5-gallon buckets before. I've never transplanted them this late in the season before, either. It's like two months late.

I've only transplanted one so far, but there are plenty more. I plan to keep them fertilized.

The soil smelled like cruciferous vegetables after I was finished, oddly.

The wood ash smelled of iron. That's good, since I think that soil was iron-deficient.
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Wed Jul 27, 2022 3:23 am

It's supposed to be super hot for the next six or seven days (up to 107 degrees F.).
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Thu Jul 28, 2022 3:57 am

21 Jul: 105/67
22 Jul: 100/68
23 Jul: 99/66
24 Jul: 99/69
25 Jul: 100/63
26 Jul: 104/63
27 Jul: 107/72
28 Jul (today): 107/73
29 Jul: 106/72
30 Jul: 107/73
31 Jul: 106/74
1 Aug: 99/70

More wonderberry plants got ripe fruit on them by Wednesday.

I tasted some more Cilantrovaya_A tomatoes, and they tasted a lot like Medovaya Kaplay, with a little more acid. I like them a lot. I wonder if this is the flavor they'll keep most of the season, or if they'll stay variable. Whatever the case, it's the first time two I've eaten personally have tasted approximately the same.

Here's the harvest count so far:
- Cilantrovaya_A: 9
- Galapagos Island (v22_A8, v22_A9, and v22_A10): 22
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