How serious is the coronavirus?

Off Topic Area
User avatar
worth1
Reactions:
Posts: 1160
Joined: Tue Dec 10, 2019 12:32 pm
Location: 25 miles southeast of Waterloo Texas

Re: How serious is the coronavirus?

#461

Post: # 14838Unread post worth1
Tue Mar 24, 2020 6:08 am

Sue_CT wrote:
Mon Mar 23, 2020 6:33 pm
Not sure he can really do that. I mean he can try. But it has been the states that have been shutting things down, not the Federal Gvt. I don't think they can override the states. I hope mine will have better sense.
The feds can do it if they declare Marshall law.
But to what end.
Would they force people out of their homes and make them go to work.
That would be something to see.
But of course they could just cut off government aid.
Force people to work or starve and get evicted.
I'm sick of the government running us instead of us running it.
They can't even pass an emergency bill without feuding over special interests getting tacked on to it.
Worth
Paul Prudhomme Is The Head Chef In Heaven

User avatar
arnorrian
Reactions:
Posts: 348
Joined: Tue Dec 10, 2019 10:37 pm
Location: Moesia Superior
Contact:

Re: How serious is the coronavirus?

#462

Post: # 14842Unread post arnorrian
Tue Mar 24, 2020 7:21 am

A British geneticist and science communicator I follow on Twitter, Adam Rutherford, got the virus. He's fairly fit, with no underlying illnesses, and about 45 y/o. He describes it as a severe flu in symptoms, and he got better by day 6. On day 8 he got worse, and was diagnosed with pneumonia.
Climate: Cfa
USDA hardiness zone: 7
Elevation: 140 m

mikestuff49
Reactions:
Posts: 84
Joined: Thu Dec 12, 2019 1:11 pm
Location: Branson MO Zone 6b

Re: How serious is the coronavirus?

#463

Post: # 14843Unread post mikestuff49
Tue Mar 24, 2020 7:25 am

Tesla Chief Executive Elon Musk offered 1,255 ventilators for free on Monday to help the fight against COVID-19, the disease the coronavirus causes.

"China had an oversupply, so we bought 1255 FDA-approved ResMed, Philips & Medtronic ventilators on Friday night & airshipped them to LA. If you want a free ventilator installed, please let us know!"

On the down side, he was one of the first to downplay the seriousness of the virus.
Last edited by mikestuff49 on Tue Mar 24, 2020 8:03 am, edited 1 time in total.
The best things in life---are not things.

User avatar
arnorrian
Reactions:
Posts: 348
Joined: Tue Dec 10, 2019 10:37 pm
Location: Moesia Superior
Contact:

Re: How serious is the coronavirus?

#464

Post: # 14844Unread post arnorrian
Tue Mar 24, 2020 7:26 am

Preparations in the main dome of the Belgrade expo center.

Climate: Cfa
USDA hardiness zone: 7
Elevation: 140 m

matereater
Reactions:
Posts: 20
Joined: Tue Dec 24, 2019 6:00 am

Re: How serious is the coronavirus?

#465

Post: # 14845Unread post matereater
Tue Mar 24, 2020 7:39 am

Salt, I admire your wife for being on the front lines and putting herself at risk. Prayers she remains safe !

User avatar
Growing Coastal
Reactions:
Posts: 225
Joined: Tue Dec 10, 2019 4:49 pm
Location: Vancouver Island Canada

Re: How serious is the coronavirus?

#466

Post: # 14848Unread post Growing Coastal
Tue Mar 24, 2020 8:54 am

Nan6b wrote:
Mon Mar 23, 2020 9:49 am
Coastal, are you sick?
Hi Nan. No, not sick only broken. When I opened the blinds one morning I noticed the rising sunlight on a mountain and went out to take a photo. When I stepped back out of the garden I veered off in the wrong direction and fell backward, tripping over something breaking my wrist (radius) when I landed.
(Saved camera! :D )
I am not able to take anti inflammatories so no pain killers and I was pleasantly surprised at how little it has hurt. I was able to sleep the 1st night! Remarkable and waaaaay better than rotater cuff injury in the past.
Typing with one hand is no fun but at least it is my right hand.

The hospital is the last place I want to go, ever, nevermind now! What bad timing, really! Fortunately I have a good friend who has been seeing me through this - driving, shopping, going back to urgent care when hand turned blue (only bruising). She was not allowed inside the hospital to wait or to use the washroom yesterday. Everyone inside was keeping distance. The seating area had chairs taped off to keep available seats far apart.When one was vacated the nurse in charge of the area would wipe it down. She kept a very close eye on what went on there even directing a young man about where to put his coffee down. When she taped my cast tighter I was a bit srprised that she did not wear a mask and I did not breathe her way. The docs who spoke to me stood 6 ft away. They praised the good work the young lady doc had done setting the bone at urgent care after checking through x-ray. Another monitoring x-ray next week or so but locally.
We did a little food shopping while in the big smoke. Rye breads and seedy buns for me then some oriental noodles and lime leaves to add variety during isolation. One huge, gorgeous and delicious mango.
So, that's my corona crisis and I hope, the worst of it.

Parking lots mostly empty as were the streets. Low traffic volume on the hi-way at morning rush hour. Only some cars near the walmart at a mall we drove past and the rest of the huge lot was empty.
Surreal.

User avatar
Rajun Gardener
Reactions:
Posts: 1198
Joined: Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:00 am
Location: Lafayette La

Re: How serious is the coronavirus?

#467

Post: # 14864Unread post Rajun Gardener
Tue Mar 24, 2020 12:15 pm

Common sense in action and YES, it's good for morale!!
image.png
You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.
Zone: 9A
Climate: Hot and Humid
Avg annual rainfall: 60.48"

User avatar
root_grow
Reactions:
Posts: 24
Joined: Fri Dec 13, 2019 12:21 pm
Location: Washington

Re: How serious is the coronavirus?

#468

Post: # 14865Unread post root_grow
Tue Mar 24, 2020 12:38 pm

It's good to see so many of you reporting empty places showing people taking this seriously.

I had to make the 3 hour drive to Seattle yesterday for a doctor appointment that really could not be postponed. I was disappointed to find a pretty typical amount of traffic along the way, and as I approached Seattle there were enough cars to cause actual traffic and slower travel. There was still an actual rush hour after 5! It's been here longer than anywhere else in the US, people have had plenty of time by now to see what's happened elsewhere and thoroughly stock their cabinets, but no. Store parking lots along the way looked like it was business as usual. Parking lots of some restaurants that don't usually do take out were more full than usual. I get that take out is safer for customers, but it means employees still have higher exposure than if they didn't go to work. I'm so disappointed. What part of "essential business only" do people not understand??

Now that I've gone up there, I consider myself exposed and will not be going anywhere else for a while. After that I won't be giving any money to any business that does not provide reasonable sick leave to its employees. Hospitals in this region were operating at capacity even before coronavirus. The family practice clinic where my SO works has still only received 5 test kits total (and nowhere near enough protective equipment). We have absolutely no idea how many cases are in this state. I think the underestimate is providing a false sense of security. I really hope the stronger stay-at-home order issued yesterday will make a difference, but I'm skeptical and it's so, so late.

Clkeiper
Reactions:
Posts: 134
Joined: Tue Dec 10, 2019 1:31 pm

Re: How serious is the coronavirus?

#469

Post: # 14866Unread post Clkeiper
Tue Mar 24, 2020 12:44 pm

we are under a two week stay at home rule. going for food, rx, emergency or your job is allowed. my daughter went to the store and I needed some dish soap... none except some essential oil stuff from Dawn. I don't care. its fine. BUT my thought was... are theses people who are all of a sudden cleaning off the shelves people who have no food or cleaning supplies in their homes? seriously? how much bleach, lysol, dishsoap etc can one use? serious question. not a rant, a serious thought about the underlying state of households. there are no eggs to be had. there are no more people now than three weeks ago. restaurants are not using them... just why are there not eggs on the shelves? a chicken takes approx 6 months to go from chick to egg layer... this wasn't planned so chickens were already producing a normal amount and Easter is coming so there should be an abundance of eggs....
Last edited by Clkeiper on Tue Mar 24, 2020 6:52 pm, edited 1 time in total.

User avatar
Cole_Robbie
Reactions:
Posts: 98
Joined: Tue Dec 10, 2019 11:58 pm

Re: How serious is the coronavirus?

#470

Post: # 14868Unread post Cole_Robbie
Tue Mar 24, 2020 12:58 pm

Growing Coastal wrote:
Tue Mar 24, 2020 8:54 am
The docs who spoke to me stood 6 ft away. They praised the good work the young lady doc had done setting the bone at urgent care after checking through x-ray.
A former gf of mine worked for an ortho doc. Let me echo what they said about you being lucky to get a good splint in urgent care. That is not their expertise, so they do tend to produce a lot of bad ones.

Clkeiper
Reactions:
Posts: 134
Joined: Tue Dec 10, 2019 1:31 pm

Re: How serious is the coronavirus?

#471

Post: # 14869Unread post Clkeiper
Tue Mar 24, 2020 1:20 pm

no one seems to be concerned about the sheer number of flu cases or related deaths.
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/index.htm
The most recent statistics, collected through the week ending January 25, 2020, report that there have been 19 million cases of influenza during US 2019-20 flu season. This is an increase of 4 million cases since the last report.Feb 5, 2020

https://www.contagionlive.com/news/us-f ... -last-week

User avatar
worth1
Reactions:
Posts: 1160
Joined: Tue Dec 10, 2019 12:32 pm
Location: 25 miles southeast of Waterloo Texas

Re: How serious is the coronavirus?

#472

Post: # 14874Unread post worth1
Tue Mar 24, 2020 1:56 pm

Just got this email today.
Blank. Fire Protection of Austin is an essential business serving first responders, government facilities, hospitals and many other essential businesses or organizations as defined by the CDC.  We will continue
to meet our customers requirements through this difficult time.  There are many areas issuing shelter in place directives which for us as an essential business means we are ask to be mindful of keeping our separation from others while working on jobsites or
on service calls.  Together we will work through this and when the nation ramps back up we will be there as we are now to support our customer base.  As our nation buckles down and practices social distancing to combat our invisible enemy (COVID-19)  please
ensure that you follow CDC’s guidelines while at work and at home.
 
Clean your hands often
Worth
Paul Prudhomme Is The Head Chef In Heaven

User avatar
worth1
Reactions:
Posts: 1160
Joined: Tue Dec 10, 2019 12:32 pm
Location: 25 miles southeast of Waterloo Texas

Re: How serious is the coronavirus?

#473

Post: # 14883Unread post worth1
Tue Mar 24, 2020 4:57 pm

Folks I'm looking at it this way.
I'm in Berlin Germany the Russians are advancing and I dont have a dam thing to eat.
Lucky if I have bread and water.
I found some dried smoked and cured pigs feet in the garage I forgot about and we are going to have a feast.
I honesty have eaten some crazy stuff in my life and never got sick because I cooked it, but I highly doubt I would get sick if I didn't cook it.
I was raised to cut out the bad parts.
That is because I have a very good understanding of food poisoning and how to not get it.'
The old timers would hang a dead duck by its neck till it parted and then it would be ready to cook.
Not quite for sure I am ready to go that far but you get my drift.
About the time this whole thing started I was eating all the stuff I had canned and stored so I could start fresh.
Couldn't have picked a worse time and I have food I'm just not where I need to be to feel really good about things.'
No worries I have a lot of fresh meat running around outside.
Plus I think of the concentration camp folks and how they survived.
One time I was so poor all I had to eat was salt and pepper soup.
Been there done it and ready.
Bring it on.
Worth
Paul Prudhomme Is The Head Chef In Heaven

clara
Reactions:
Posts: 71
Joined: Wed Jan 01, 2020 1:02 pm
Location: Germany near Cologne

Re: How serious is the coronavirus?

#474

Post: # 14887Unread post clara
Tue Mar 24, 2020 5:34 pm

I am glad to see a lot of solidarity in Germany in these days. 95% of the Germans agree with what has been ordered from the gvt, only 3% are against it. 2% probably don't know what to think of the rules. Almost everywhere groups have been formed willing to help those who need it without risking to spread the virus.

Although we are probably better equipped as to medical supply than many other countries, the industry is trying to help also. Who in former days sewed underwear is now sewing masks or coats, who produced dust masks is producing medical masks for hospitals (don't ask me about the difference). Our vehicle industry will produce parts of respirators for the hospitals instead of vehicles - who is interested in buying a car just now? Those who have produced hard liquor are now producing disinfectants.

And a bit more of even European solidarity: Several of the German states are taking care of French, Italian and Austrian corona patients as they still have some ICU beds left.
per aspera ad astra

Clkeiper
Reactions:
Posts: 134
Joined: Tue Dec 10, 2019 1:31 pm

Re: How serious is the coronavirus?

#475

Post: # 14891Unread post Clkeiper
Tue Mar 24, 2020 6:50 pm

clara wrote:
Tue Mar 24, 2020 5:34 pm
I am glad to see a lot of solidarity in Germany in these days. 95% of the Germans agree with what has been ordered from the gvt, only 3% are against it. 2% probably don't know what to think of the rules. Almost everywhere groups have been formed willing to help those who need it without risking to spread the virus.

Although we are probably better equipped as to medical supply than many other countries, the industry is trying to help also. Who in former days sewed underwear is now sewing masks or coats, who produced dust masks is producing medical masks for hospitals (don't ask me about the difference). Our vehicle industry will produce parts of respirators for the hospitals instead of vehicles - who is interested in buying a car just now? Those who have produced hard liquor are now producing disinfectants.

And a bit more of even European solidarity: Several of the German states are taking care of French, Italian and Austrian corona patients as they still have some ICU beds left.
glad to hear it. it does sound like some of the things that are happening here, too. some on the homefront some on the industrial front. we all just need to work together for the good of all of us.

User avatar
Bower
Reactions:
Posts: 797
Joined: Thu Dec 12, 2019 12:44 pm
Location: Newfoundland, Canada

Re: How serious is the coronavirus?

#476

Post: # 14896Unread post Bower
Tue Mar 24, 2020 8:47 pm

I was reading the other day that Germany's low death rate can be attributed to the far superior resources available for care. 25,000 acute care beds and respirators compared with 5,000 in Spain or Italy. Fantastic to be well prepared, and even able to help your neighbors. :)
I'm glad that Canada has taken drastic measures to shut everything down fairly early in the curve. But I don't think we have those kind of resources either, if indeed our cases continue to increase as they are right now. PPE is an issue, and at least I've heard that alcohol producers are already switched to produce sanitizer. Other needs are not addressed yet.
Politicians federally are also bickering about passing the bill to cover costs including to aid citizens who are losing work and need financial support. I am surprised but... maybe not that surprised. As usual the foot dragging is on the right. No offense, however you vote. It's just a fact, spending patterns are different one end from the other. It may be possible to pass the bill without their agreement, but it would have been nice to see a unanimous confident move in the face of crisis. Especially when people are thrown out of work and need these proposals to be a done deal, so they can calm down and just do what is necessary.
Locally they cancelled all elective surgeries starting last week, and have freed up as many beds as possible. They report we are now only using 17% of our respirators - IDK what the actual number would be. They received an order of PPE but are still very worried about a shortage. At present, we have no covid patients in hospital. All of the cases so far are managed in isolation in their homes. I'm sure that will change in coming days.
Taxi drivers were on the news last night, about the number of passengers off international flights who asked to be driven to Tim Hortons or the supermarket before going into 'self isolation'. :shock: Seriously!!! :evil: More than 300 have been reported to police and are being investigated. In the meantime that is more than 300 opportunities to contaminate the only place open that we're supposed to go for basic needs. :roll: :roll:
AgCan Zone 5a/USDA zone 4
temperate marine climate
yearly precip 61 inches/1550 mm

User avatar
Nan6b
Reactions:
Posts: 801
Joined: Tue Dec 10, 2019 2:58 pm
Location: Pittsburgh, PA

Re: How serious is the coronavirus?

#477

Post: # 14897Unread post Nan6b
Tue Mar 24, 2020 9:02 pm

Worth, I get what you're saying. I'm annoyed that I can't seem to get coconut coffee creamer and I have to use vanilla. But really, if I couldn't get food delivered, we have a bunch of canned goods and a freezer full of meat, etc. While it might not be my favorite meal every day, we could surely make it through.

User avatar
Nan6b
Reactions:
Posts: 801
Joined: Tue Dec 10, 2019 2:58 pm
Location: Pittsburgh, PA

Re: How serious is the coronavirus?

#478

Post: # 14898Unread post Nan6b
Tue Mar 24, 2020 9:12 pm

Canadians- if you sew, your health workers may need some of those homemade cloth masks, or maybe the personal care homes do.

User avatar
worth1
Reactions:
Posts: 1160
Joined: Tue Dec 10, 2019 12:32 pm
Location: 25 miles southeast of Waterloo Texas

Re: How serious is the coronavirus?

#479

Post: # 14908Unread post worth1
Wed Mar 25, 2020 5:12 am

Austin/Travis county is now under a shelter in place order.
I'm at work.
Will give update on traffic this afternoon.
Worth
Paul Prudhomme Is The Head Chef In Heaven

User avatar
arnorrian
Reactions:
Posts: 348
Joined: Tue Dec 10, 2019 10:37 pm
Location: Moesia Superior
Contact:

Re: How serious is the coronavirus?

#480

Post: # 14911Unread post arnorrian
Wed Mar 25, 2020 5:47 am

The situation here in Serbia:

- 303 confirmed infected and 4 dead.
- The country is in lockdown, only cargo vehicles are allowed to enter and leave. Transiting cargo vehicles are set into convoys and escorted by the police from border to border.
- Serbian citizens are still allowed to enter the country, but it's very nearly impossible to cross neighboring countries.
- All airports re closed.
- There is a police curfew from 5 pm to 5 am. People that work are exempt.
- Persons over 65 in cities and town, and 70 in the villages, are forbidden from leaving their homes.
- Persons that were out of the country recently are under home quarantine, those of them are caught outside are arrested and put in isolation centers.

- A group of Chinese doctors came to advise, and the Chinese model will be used. The first shipment of medical supplies arrived from China a well.
- The plan going forward is to sequester all the confirmed infected.
- Per Chinese advice chloroquine phosphate is given to the infected, along with alpha interferon, lopinavir/ritonavir, ribavirin, arbidol, along with azithromycine (this list has not been officially confirmed).
- Mass testings are expected to start soon.
- Those who get well are to remain in self-isolation for two weeks. The Chinese say that they have seen cases of the virus still being active in people who got well and had no further symptoms.
Climate: Cfa
USDA hardiness zone: 7
Elevation: 140 m

Post Reply

Return to “Area 51”