Artichokes and Cardoons

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Artichokes and Cardoons

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Post: # 30758Unread post karstopography
Thu Sep 17, 2020 12:17 pm

Anyone grow these? I’ve got three romanesco artichokes seedlings up and growing along with three ROUGE D'ALGER CARDOON seedlings. The county ag extension says sets should be put in here September or October. I’ve got one small green globe artichoke already out there that I planted in the spring. It was about dead in a container being crowded out by other plants, so I moved it to a place with more room. Not exactly thriving in the heat, but hopefully it will rebound over the fall and winter.

Wondering how much special care and cold protection these plants might need.
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Thu Sep 17, 2020 2:43 pm

I grew cardoons one season...actually two, since they came back the next season. But they they didn't produce much, and the second year they had nothing to harvest - just some spiny flower heads, not harvestable, like artichokes, and the stalks had nothing to harvest. Never tried again; I think they like cooler weather.
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Fri Sep 18, 2020 5:36 pm

I've grown both, when I lived in a slightly different climate. I never harvested the cardoons, because you have to wrap the stems (the edible part) in brown paper to blanch them. But I enjoyed the flowers. Artichokes grew like a weed in my prior garden! I inherited several in my garden plot and never knew what variety they were.

I'm hearing from neighbors in the community garden that gophers love artichokes here. I have enough space for a few artichoke plants, and have been thinking about growing from seed to get some of the more interesting varieties. From the little research I've done, it seems the spiniest leafed ones are also reputedly the tastiest!
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Fri Sep 18, 2020 9:29 pm

I used to make a cardoon soup that was really good, but that was when I lived in the city where I could find cardoons in the market. Baby artichokes were another delicacy I loved to cook with, sadly, those seem impossible to find in the small town markets here.

I have seen artichokes and cardoons grow here so I know it is technically doable. But, is it something I can pull off, time will tell.
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Post: # 30866Unread post Shule
Sat Sep 19, 2020 3:37 am

We purchased a Bonnie Plants Green Globe artichoke plant in the spring of 2019 (May, early June, or so). It came with a mild disease, or something, though, by the look of it when we purchased it. Anyway, it produced artichokes nicely that year. The flowers looked really nice (and were huge); so, I didn't eat any of them; I just let them bloom. The bees loved them. This year, the plant grew back and produced more artichokes. I didn't let any of them bloom, but I harvested them too late. I did eat some anyway, though. The plant died a few weeks ago, I think, but the artichokes were all done quite a while ago.

I didn't have to do anything over the winter to protect it, although it was growing in a place with black plastic, which probably helped to keep the soil warmer than it would have been. We do have cold winters, but it didn't get especially cold for my area that year.

It seemed to have a lot of mites or something like that on it around the time I harvested the artichokes, this year (which again, was too late).

I kind of see it more as an ornamental, but it is very ornamental.

Here are some pictures from 27 Aug 2019:
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Here's the plant again on 30 May 2020:
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Post: # 30871Unread post karstopography
Sat Sep 19, 2020 8:29 am

Those are very pretty and showy. I’d be thrilled if that’s what mine do.

Yes, my wife likes a pretty garden (so do I) and I was looking at these artichokes and cardoons as sort of dual purpose plants, something to look at with the possibility of something to eat, too. Plan is to stick them in some corners so I can leave them unmolested all fall, winter and spring.
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Thu Oct 15, 2020 4:22 pm

You know how I said our Green Globe artichoke died? Well, it grew back a while ago. I'm considering digging it up, though, due to the disease that it came with (not visible in the picture).
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Post: # 32447Unread post GoDawgs
Thu Oct 15, 2020 5:49 pm

I've always wondered how artichokes would do here. How much elbow room do the regular green globe plants need?
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Post: # 32459Unread post Shule
Thu Oct 15, 2020 9:02 pm

GoDawgs wrote:
Thu Oct 15, 2020 5:49 pm
I've always wondered how artichokes would do here. How much elbow room do the regular green globe plants need?
I think mine gets about 4.5' to 5' wide, all the way around. I'm not sure how much space between it and other plants is ideal.
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