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OhioGardener 2020
Hello all! I'm still relatively new on this board, but I have a degree in Biology and have been growing/seed-saving heirloom tomatoes and several other vegetables since the late 1980's/early 1990's. I just have to use a lot of containers and maximize small spaces these days due to my knees. This year the stress of quarantine and a long time job loss found me turning to my garden as an outlet and I've posted my 2020 tomato grow outs below. Holy tomato I didn't realize I started that many! But it's keeping me busy during these crazy times. I'll share some photos in my followup replies.
42 Days
Ambrosia Gold
Amish Yellowish Orange Oxheart (from NZ Heritage Food Crops Trust)
Andrina
Argentinskoe Chudo (Argentine Miracle)
Aztec
Baby
Bellestar (? may not make it)
Betalux
Birdie Rouge
Chernyi Prins (Black Prince - Premus 1993 Moscow)
Bloody Butcher
Buria (Brown - Premus 1991 Moscow)
Bychye Serdtse Rozovoye (Bull's Heart Pink - Premus 1991 Moscow)
Campbell-28 Yellow
Cape Teaser (Volunteer)
Chaika (Seagull)
Chili Verde
Coastal Pride - FAILED
Colgar 100
Cuatomate (frost-resistant volunteer seedling)
De Barao Red (Premus 1991 Moscow)
Drei Käse Hoch (Three Cheese High)
Earlibright (SSE seedbank)
Early High Crimson
Edelrot
Enot (Raccoon)
Everglades
Flor de Artana
Florida Petit
Fruit Punch Cherry
Gapan Native
Gold Pearl Micro
Golden Green
Golden Light (from NZ Heritage Food Crops Trust)
Golden Queen
Gorshechniy Orangeviy (Potted Orange)
Green Pineapple
Hahms Gelbe Topftomate (Hahm's Yellow Micro Dwarf)
High Crimson (SSE seedbank)
Hikari
House
IPK T 1176 (Italy)
J&L Midnight Select
Jagodka (Berry)
Jochalos
Juane Flamme
Kamatis Na Ligaw (Phillipine Wild Tomato)
Kamenniy Tsvetok (Stone Flower)
Klusha Zolotaya (Golden Broody)
Komnatyi, Ocharovanie (Indoor Charm)
Letniy Abrikos (Summer Apricot)
Lille Lise
Lofthouse 2019
Lofthouse BHXW Largest
Long John
Lucky Leprechaun
Luna (Moon)
Malinovaya Rossyp (Raspberry Placer)
Matt's Wild Cherry (Volunteer)
Micro Tom
Mini Orange
Moment
Monetka (Money)
Mongolskiy Karluk (Mongolian Dwarf)
Moroz Batyushka (Father Frost)
Moscow Market (Premus 1991 Moscow)
Orange Crimea
Orange Hat
Orange Roma
Oranzheviy Dzhaz (Orange Jazz)
Painted Lady
Patio King
Peacevine Cherry (Volunteer)
Peremoga 165 (Victory 165)
Peruvian (Solanum Peruvianum)
Philippine (SSE seedbank)
PI 129129 (SSE seedbank))
Pigmy Red
Pinocchio
Polar Baby
Polish Dwarf
Polish Yellow Dwarf
Premus (Premus 1993 Moscow)
Principe Borghese
Raketa (Rocket)
Rosy Finsh
Russian Saskatchewan
Saraev Bezrassadniy (Saraev Directsow)
Saraev Ermak (Saraev Yermak)
Saraev Drushniy Saraeva (Friendly Saraev)
Saraev Gruntoviy 6 (Saraev Ground 6)
Saraev I-3
Saraev Iyulskie (Saraev July)
Saraev Lesnoy (Saraev Forest)
Saraev Los (Saraev Moose)
Saraev Noviy Gruntoviy (Saraev New Ground)
Saraev O-33
Saraev Obilnie Saraeva (Abundant Saraev)
Saraev Otbor 94 (Saraev Selection 94)
Saraev Rozoviy Saraeva (Saraev Pink)
Saraev Saraevskiy No 1 (Saraev No 1)
Saraev Sibiryak (Saraev Siberian)
Saraev Spiridonovskiy
Saraev Super Tomat Saraeva (Saraev Super Tomato)
Saraev Vesennie Zamorozki (Saraev Spring Frosts)
Sen Pier (St. Pierre - Premus 1991 Moscow)
Short-Staged (SSE seedbank)
Sprint Taimer (Sprint Timer)
Stakeless
Strelka (Arrow)
Sun Sugar (M's)(dehybridized)
Super Klusha (Super Broody)
Susong Kalabaw (Susong Buffalo)
Tayyana
Tibet
Tomate de Quito
Totem (dehybridized)
Tricot Czech
Utyonok (Duckling)
Variegated
Veepro
Veseliy Gnom (Cheerful Gnome)
Vilma
Yantarniy Med (Amber Honey)
Yaponskiy Stelyashchisya (Japanese Creeping)
Yellow Pygmy
Zieglers Fleisch
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Ambrosia Gold
Amish Yellowish Orange Oxheart (from NZ Heritage Food Crops Trust)
Andrina
Argentinskoe Chudo (Argentine Miracle)
Aztec
Baby
Bellestar (? may not make it)
Betalux
Birdie Rouge
Chernyi Prins (Black Prince - Premus 1993 Moscow)
Bloody Butcher
Buria (Brown - Premus 1991 Moscow)
Bychye Serdtse Rozovoye (Bull's Heart Pink - Premus 1991 Moscow)
Campbell-28 Yellow
Cape Teaser (Volunteer)
Chaika (Seagull)
Chili Verde
Coastal Pride - FAILED
Colgar 100
Cuatomate (frost-resistant volunteer seedling)
De Barao Red (Premus 1991 Moscow)
Drei Käse Hoch (Three Cheese High)
Earlibright (SSE seedbank)
Early High Crimson
Edelrot
Enot (Raccoon)
Everglades
Flor de Artana
Florida Petit
Fruit Punch Cherry
Gapan Native
Gold Pearl Micro
Golden Green
Golden Light (from NZ Heritage Food Crops Trust)
Golden Queen
Gorshechniy Orangeviy (Potted Orange)
Green Pineapple
Hahms Gelbe Topftomate (Hahm's Yellow Micro Dwarf)
High Crimson (SSE seedbank)
Hikari
House
IPK T 1176 (Italy)
J&L Midnight Select
Jagodka (Berry)
Jochalos
Juane Flamme
Kamatis Na Ligaw (Phillipine Wild Tomato)
Kamenniy Tsvetok (Stone Flower)
Klusha Zolotaya (Golden Broody)
Komnatyi, Ocharovanie (Indoor Charm)
Letniy Abrikos (Summer Apricot)
Lille Lise
Lofthouse 2019
Lofthouse BHXW Largest
Long John
Lucky Leprechaun
Luna (Moon)
Malinovaya Rossyp (Raspberry Placer)
Matt's Wild Cherry (Volunteer)
Micro Tom
Mini Orange
Moment
Monetka (Money)
Mongolskiy Karluk (Mongolian Dwarf)
Moroz Batyushka (Father Frost)
Moscow Market (Premus 1991 Moscow)
Orange Crimea
Orange Hat
Orange Roma
Oranzheviy Dzhaz (Orange Jazz)
Painted Lady
Patio King
Peacevine Cherry (Volunteer)
Peremoga 165 (Victory 165)
Peruvian (Solanum Peruvianum)
Philippine (SSE seedbank)
PI 129129 (SSE seedbank))
Pigmy Red
Pinocchio
Polar Baby
Polish Dwarf
Polish Yellow Dwarf
Premus (Premus 1993 Moscow)
Principe Borghese
Raketa (Rocket)
Rosy Finsh
Russian Saskatchewan
Saraev Bezrassadniy (Saraev Directsow)
Saraev Ermak (Saraev Yermak)
Saraev Drushniy Saraeva (Friendly Saraev)
Saraev Gruntoviy 6 (Saraev Ground 6)
Saraev I-3
Saraev Iyulskie (Saraev July)
Saraev Lesnoy (Saraev Forest)
Saraev Los (Saraev Moose)
Saraev Noviy Gruntoviy (Saraev New Ground)
Saraev O-33
Saraev Obilnie Saraeva (Abundant Saraev)
Saraev Otbor 94 (Saraev Selection 94)
Saraev Rozoviy Saraeva (Saraev Pink)
Saraev Saraevskiy No 1 (Saraev No 1)
Saraev Sibiryak (Saraev Siberian)
Saraev Spiridonovskiy
Saraev Super Tomat Saraeva (Saraev Super Tomato)
Saraev Vesennie Zamorozki (Saraev Spring Frosts)
Sen Pier (St. Pierre - Premus 1991 Moscow)
Short-Staged (SSE seedbank)
Sprint Taimer (Sprint Timer)
Stakeless
Strelka (Arrow)
Sun Sugar (M's)(dehybridized)
Super Klusha (Super Broody)
Susong Kalabaw (Susong Buffalo)
Tayyana
Tibet
Tomate de Quito
Totem (dehybridized)
Tricot Czech
Utyonok (Duckling)
Variegated
Veepro
Veseliy Gnom (Cheerful Gnome)
Vilma
Yantarniy Med (Amber Honey)
Yaponskiy Stelyashchisya (Japanese Creeping)
Yellow Pygmy
Zieglers Fleisch
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Seed flats were started late this year in April. Since I grow a lot of Russian varieties, I find that a later start actually works best because the more precocious varieties don't outgrow their cells before I can get them hardened off and transplanted. I always start at least 4 seedlings of each variety so that I can check for uniformity and rogue out any potential weak plants or off types
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Looking great Debbie!
You will have to let us know your favourites after you have tasted them all .
Linda
You will have to let us know your favourites after you have tasted them all .
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Impressive lot you have there Debbie! looking forward to hear of progress reports from these.
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Wow! What a nice variety! Looking forward to pics of tomato development & harvest.
So sorry about the job loss, though.
So sorry about the job loss, though.
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Wow! What a list! Please keep reporting how your garden is going.
Any early favorites?
Any early favorites?
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+1, looking forward to seeing lots of pictures! Hope you have a great season!
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That's an amazing list! There are only two on there that I'm doing, the Drei Käse Hoch and LIlle Lise, two of the first four micros I'm starting to play with. Just curious, what got you into all the Russian varieties? Looking forward to seeing how your plants do and which are your favorites!
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One of my early favorites is Amish Yellowish Orange Oxheart without yet having actual tomatoes or knowing how the plant will hold up over the rest of the season. It started out very slowly in the seed flats, but has absolutely zoomed into bloom with compact, thick stems and healthy foliage. I got this one after being intrigued by the work of NZ Heritage Food Crops trust.
When I tried to locate Amish YOO ( #1 variety for tetra-cis-lycopene), I discovered it's apparently no longer available in the USA and there's also some controversy over what the variety actually was. So, wanting it for personal health, I made a donation and acquired the tested strain. It almost didn't happen because it was just as USDA was removing tomatoes from the small seed permit and my seeds actually got returned to them in the mayhem after they were misaddressed by USDA when they attempted to forward them to me the first time. So, after all that, this is one that I hope will be good enough to be a regular in my garden!
I'm also growing Golden Light from NZ which is supposed to be another high tetra-cis-lycopene variety and re-growing Orange Crimea (#2 variety for tetra-cis-lycopene) which I trialed in 2019 along with Olga's Round Yellow Chicken Egg (#3).
Amish Yellowish Orange Oxheart:
Golden Light:
Orange Crimea (pic from 2019):
Olga's Round Yellow Chicken Egg (pic from 2019):
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Lovely looking plants and tomatoes. Just remember to back the water off the Colgar 100 once it starts to flower, they like it dry, definitely do not like an over abundance of water like I had to put up with this season.
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I'm a Slavic American and studied Russian language as a minor in college. I started growing Russian varieties when I was presented with seeds as a gift when I made a trip over there in 1991 which was not long after I started saving heirlooms. The varieties are pictured below and represent old Soviet garden strains. There aren't many positive things one could say about socialism as a system, but they sure had some yummy tomatoes! With the lack of modern gardening products and plants having to survive irregular trips to the countryside to tend them, I consider these varieties that I brought back with me to be my go-to workhorses and the ones that started my love of E. European varieties:GoDawgs wrote: ↑Sun Jun 28, 2020 3:55 pm That's an amazing list! There are only two on there that I'm doing, the Drei Käse Hoch and LIlle Lise, two of the first four micros I'm starting to play with. Just curious, what got you into all the Russian varieties? Looking forward to seeing how your plants do and which are your favorites!
Premus (dwarf w/o original name): Bychye Serdtse Rozovoe: Moscow Market: Sen Pier: Burye: Black Prince (Premus strain): Debarao Red (Premus strain): Zebra: Mindalnaya:
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Now for some photos of my current 2020 grow outs:
Baby and Micro Tom, both re-grows, are nearly tied for my smallest: My little micro farm plus a few others getting a late start: Variegated from Sand Hill Preservation is my most striking. I started 10 seedlings and then selected for the most variegation hoping it carries forward:
Tayana is my weirdest tomato. Unfortunately it hates me and for the 2nd year is just starting to fail as the weather turns really hot. Too bad because I love its carrot leaves and ultra short 16 - 20 inch stature and the fact that it's supposed to have full sized good tasting tomatoes. Possibly this is one for farther north? Behind Tayana is Ocharovanie Komnatniy (Room Charm), a dwarf re-grow that didn't impress me at first last year, but then yielded a TON of striking purple-pink cherry-sized fruits with good flavor. It's a short determinate, but produced over several weeks and then came back for another round later in the season. Earlibright is a Canadian variety with the crimson gene that DOES apparently like Ohio along with it's sister, Earlyrouge, which produced well last year: Philippine is a gamble from the SSE seedbank. What will it be like? Is this one that will smile at the hottest of summers after my determinate Russians are finishing up? Chili Verde is supposed to be a dwarf that resembles a green habanero pepper. Right now it's probably my most lush healthy looking plant. Zieglers Fleisch is a re-grow. It's a container-friendly dwarf red slicer that appeared to have superior disease resistance last year. So far, so good in 2020. Saraev Druzhnyi and Saraev Bezrassadnyi are from the Soviet plant breeder Pavel Saraev who selected for epigenetic frost resistance in seedlings. I'm hoping for a crap ton of seed so that I can experiment with "training" and direct sowing seedlings weeks earlier than generally considered "safe" in my area: Premus is my little tomato. It was given to me by a Russian biologist without its original name and so far doesn't match any other Russian dwarf that I've been able to get my hands on or anything I've managed to find on Russian language tomato blogs. It may not have survived long after the collapse of USSR, but it's a good one that consistently beats hundreds of varieties to production and is currently neck and neck with Jagodka and a few of the Saraev's for the first tomato of the season. PI129129 is a re-grow of an obscure variety that I found lurking in the SSE gene bank which I ordered on a whim. I was able to trace it to the 1942 USDA plant inventory which describes it as a medium size round red fruit collected from a market in Panama on May 10, 1938. It's actually a red cherry by today's standards. Last year it survived weeks of temperatures in the 90's in a 2 gallon pot sitting on the pavement and produced some of the sweetest and yet balanced tomatoes that I've tasted, so it's being trialed again this year in the ground.
Purple Peruvian pull start potatoes and hopefully 2021's seed. This is the true fingerling form.
Moskovskiy Parnikovy (Moscow Greenhouse) lettuce from Tatiana's Tomatobase. Wow it's FAST and LUSH. This one is being collected for re-growing in the fall and future years. One of the ways I maximize space. More ultra-early Saraev tomatoes being grown in half barrels along with pole beans which run up the trellises and help fix nitrogen for the tomatoes.
Baby and Micro Tom, both re-grows, are nearly tied for my smallest: My little micro farm plus a few others getting a late start: Variegated from Sand Hill Preservation is my most striking. I started 10 seedlings and then selected for the most variegation hoping it carries forward:
Tayana is my weirdest tomato. Unfortunately it hates me and for the 2nd year is just starting to fail as the weather turns really hot. Too bad because I love its carrot leaves and ultra short 16 - 20 inch stature and the fact that it's supposed to have full sized good tasting tomatoes. Possibly this is one for farther north? Behind Tayana is Ocharovanie Komnatniy (Room Charm), a dwarf re-grow that didn't impress me at first last year, but then yielded a TON of striking purple-pink cherry-sized fruits with good flavor. It's a short determinate, but produced over several weeks and then came back for another round later in the season. Earlibright is a Canadian variety with the crimson gene that DOES apparently like Ohio along with it's sister, Earlyrouge, which produced well last year: Philippine is a gamble from the SSE seedbank. What will it be like? Is this one that will smile at the hottest of summers after my determinate Russians are finishing up? Chili Verde is supposed to be a dwarf that resembles a green habanero pepper. Right now it's probably my most lush healthy looking plant. Zieglers Fleisch is a re-grow. It's a container-friendly dwarf red slicer that appeared to have superior disease resistance last year. So far, so good in 2020. Saraev Druzhnyi and Saraev Bezrassadnyi are from the Soviet plant breeder Pavel Saraev who selected for epigenetic frost resistance in seedlings. I'm hoping for a crap ton of seed so that I can experiment with "training" and direct sowing seedlings weeks earlier than generally considered "safe" in my area: Premus is my little tomato. It was given to me by a Russian biologist without its original name and so far doesn't match any other Russian dwarf that I've been able to get my hands on or anything I've managed to find on Russian language tomato blogs. It may not have survived long after the collapse of USSR, but it's a good one that consistently beats hundreds of varieties to production and is currently neck and neck with Jagodka and a few of the Saraev's for the first tomato of the season. PI129129 is a re-grow of an obscure variety that I found lurking in the SSE gene bank which I ordered on a whim. I was able to trace it to the 1942 USDA plant inventory which describes it as a medium size round red fruit collected from a market in Panama on May 10, 1938. It's actually a red cherry by today's standards. Last year it survived weeks of temperatures in the 90's in a 2 gallon pot sitting on the pavement and produced some of the sweetest and yet balanced tomatoes that I've tasted, so it's being trialed again this year in the ground.
Purple Peruvian pull start potatoes and hopefully 2021's seed. This is the true fingerling form.
Moskovskiy Parnikovy (Moscow Greenhouse) lettuce from Tatiana's Tomatobase. Wow it's FAST and LUSH. This one is being collected for re-growing in the fall and future years. One of the ways I maximize space. More ultra-early Saraev tomatoes being grown in half barrels along with pole beans which run up the trellises and help fix nitrogen for the tomatoes.
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PI129129 (photo didn't come through above)
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Sorry for my ignorance, but what is tetra-cis-lycopene and what are the health benefits? I've never heard of such a thing!OhioGardener wrote: ↑Mon Jun 29, 2020 9:21 am
One of my early favorites is Amish Yellowish Orange Oxheart without yet having actual tomatoes or knowing how the plant will hold up over the rest of the season. It started out very slowly in the seed flats, but has absolutely zoomed into bloom with compact, thick stems and healthy foliage. I got this one after being intrigued by the work of NZ Heritage Food Crops trust.
When I tried to locate Amish YOO ( #1 variety for tetra-cis-lycopene), I discovered it's apparently no longer available in the USA and there's also some controversy over what the variety actually was.
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Wow, I am impressed, everything looks gorgeous, especially those tomatoes... just WOW!
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I didn't know about it either until I ran across an article and started searching the topic. It's a form of lycopene that occurs in some varieties of orange tomatoes, the ones that carry the tangerine gene. Apparently this form of lycopene is similar to ours, is more easily absorbed, and doesn't require heat processing to become bioavailable. So, with some of the health issues in our family, I just had to track down and grow some of these. The NZ trust website has more information including charts and tables with lycopene and carotene data for a lot of heirlooms.KathyDC wrote: ↑Mon Jun 29, 2020 1:57 pmSorry for my ignorance, but what is tetra-cis-lycopene and what are the health benefits? I've never heard of such a thing!OhioGardener wrote: ↑Mon Jun 29, 2020 9:21 am
One of my early favorites is Amish Yellowish Orange Oxheart without yet having actual tomatoes or knowing how the plant will hold up over the rest of the season. It started out very slowly in the seed flats, but has absolutely zoomed into bloom with compact, thick stems and healthy foliage. I got this one after being intrigued by the work of NZ Heritage Food Crops trust.
When I tried to locate Amish YOO ( #1 variety for tetra-cis-lycopene), I discovered it's apparently no longer available in the USA and there's also some controversy over what the variety actually was.
https://www.heritagefoodcrops.org.nz/heirloom-tomatoes
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Fascinating! I had no idea. Lots of family history of cancer, so maybe I'll look into this. Thank you for sharing. Would you imagine there could be problems obtaining seed from there at this point? I wasn't familiar with the USDA rigamarole you found yourself in.
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It's interesting that you are growing purple peruvian potatoes. I grew these last year and had a nice crop. Didn't like the potatoes as much as "Pinto Gold" variety. I do remember Purple Peruvian leaves were the most vigorous of all of my potatoes and were still going strong when frost hit. I'll try to take better notes this year in comparing my potato varieties (purple peruvian, pinto gold, ama rosa, papa cacho, & russian banana).
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I like them because they're sooooo easy to grow and produce the darkest purple flesh of all of the ones I've tried. I don't have a root cellar or extra space in my crisper drawer, so I also like the fact that they can stay dormant on the counter or in the pantry all winter with no special care and then seem to send out a bizillion sprouts exactly when I need them. I also have a small in-ground plot for eating potatoes, but I got the idea to grow next year's seed potatoes from pull starts in clean soil this season to hopefully reduce the chance of accumulating viruses. How is Russian Banana? I've always wanted to try that one, but I haven't due to limited space.ponyexpress wrote: ↑Mon Jun 29, 2020 4:31 pm It's interesting that you are growing purple peruvian potatoes. I grew these last year and had a nice crop. Didn't like the potatoes as much as "Pinto Gold" variety. I do remember Purple Peruvian leaves were the most vigorous of all of my potatoes and were still going strong when frost hit. I'll try to take better notes this year in comparing my potato varieties (purple peruvian, pinto gold, ama rosa, papa cacho, & russian banana).
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It's tasty but it doesn't keep as well as my other varieties. It starts sprouting in December/January while the other potatoes sprout in March. Papa Cacho is probably the best keeper of all of them. I still have some with none or very tiny buds almost a year later.OhioGardener wrote: ↑Mon Jun 29, 2020 5:02 pm How is Russian Banana? I've always wanted to try that one, but I haven't due to limited space.