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General machine thinking.

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Fri May 19, 2023 10:06 am

Decided to add a topic on machine tools for your entertainment.
Going to post a video after my introduction and mindless babbling.
First the video just showed up on my feed and I watched it.
The reason for the video is to show folks how things were and can be done.
You don't need a CNC machine to do this stuff.
CNC means computer numerical control.
People have no idea how anything is made anymore.
Not in the modern method or the old method.

You don't have to understand or know what this guy's talking about to enjoy the video because he doesn't really talk that much.
Mostly because the people that watch it are assumed to know it already.

The video is about how to make gear cutters to cut gears.
That's a whole different subject on its own.
As long as these machines are around there isn't anything any of the powers that be can take away from us.
No catastrophe can keep these machines and the minds that know how to use them from going on.
Possibly keeping us from going into the stone age.
If you do know what this guy's doing you will understand he's no idiot.
If you don't you will gain a respect for what he's doing.
Enjoy and feel free to comment.
I would much appreciate it because I'm sick and tired of all the distractions going on these days.

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Sun Feb 11, 2024 12:28 pm

Friday I had to put two simple holes in what we call a gutter can.
The gutter can is exactly 24 inches long and 6 1/8th wide.
The centers need to be 16 inches and evenly spaced at the ends.
I asked the 23 years old to duplicate it and he couldn't figure out how I did it to save his life.
Rest assured I could do this in grade school.
The dimensions are easy to figure out.
3X8=24.
24-8=16.
8 divided by 2 equals 4.
6 1/8th divided by 2 = 3 1/16.
I literally gave all these numbers to him and he still couldn't get it.
He had a set of dial calipers and a tape measure to work with.
He said he knew fractions.
Yeah right.
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Mon Apr 22, 2024 8:57 pm

I know that it's best to try to have them figure it out. But, it's probably a problem solving skill that they've never been exposed to, in school. Problem solving skills are basically not taught.

A simple diagram to go along with the dimensions, a rectangle labeled 24" long, with 2 holes labeled 16"apart. Then a question, 24 minus 16 equals?

Then a second diagram with 2 unknown measurements from hole to edge of rectangle, where the 2 measurements would be 24 minus 16 divided by 2.

Today's youth have grown up in a world of mostly visual display, not text. If they don't know the visual steps to take, they likely get confused. Us older people need to realize that we need to meet them halfway, to get the best results.

You've even confused me with the 3X8=24, unneeded part.

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Tue Apr 23, 2024 5:15 am

Tormato wrote: Mon Apr 22, 2024 8:57 pm I know that it's best to try to have them figure it out. But, it's probably a problem solving skill that they've never been exposed to, in school. Problem solving skills are basically not taught.

A simple diagram to go along with the dimensions, a rectangle labeled 24" long, with 2 holes labeled 16"apart. Then a question, 24 minus 16 equals?

Then a second diagram with 2 unknown measurements from hole to edge of rectangle, where the 2 measurements would be 24 minus 16 divided by 2.

Today's youth have grown up in a world of mostly visual display, not text. If they don't know the visual steps to take, they likely get confused. Us older people need to realize that we need to meet them halfway, to get the best results.

You've even confused me with the 3X8=24, unneeded part.
Yeah it's backwards way of getting to a problem but it works for me.
The kid isn't really that smart.
He can't remember from one minute to the next.
Goes to bed at 1:00 in the morning and is always late for work.
But it's beyond problem solving its beyond explaining.
He'll get in the truck and just flop down on my stuff and rake it in the floor and put his feet on it including my lunch.
I'll be trying to explain something to him and he's not even listening.
He'll be looking at YouTube shorts all day long.
He'll be gone soon and I'll be glad of it.
Just another Gen Z POS.
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Tue Apr 23, 2024 8:48 am

Youtube shorts, text messages, and many other things, has many of their brains essentially wired to a very short attention span, producing a short memory. The phone messages are like a stimulating drug to them, where they are hooked on it and continually crave more. I live in a college town where the only students that are not total zombies are the freshman. I guess that they have to make friends in order to get invited to parties. By sophomore year, most students just stare into their phones.

It's surprising that he is like that, because from what I've seen, those that go into a trade, and work with their hands, generally are not. Of course, here, for the past 30 years, most of those that go into a trade are Ukrainian immigrants, both boys and girls. To them, America is still a land of opportunity, unlike their former homeland. The native born, who would otherwise flunk out of high school, are pushed into the trade schools.

One word - MOTIVATION

With it amazing things can be accomplished by people who aren't the smartest, strongest or most skillful.

Without it, very little might get accomplished.

Today, I believe if young people were simply deprived of many thing they take for granted, and had to work hard to get them, motivation might make a comeback.

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