Elbonian varieties

[NYTomatoNewbie]

Does anyone have a description of the Elbonian mudslinger? Sounds like from above it’s a black?

[Whwoz]

Yes @NYTomatoNewbie, a black. Potato leaf indeterminate of which I currently have 3 growing here down under. Plenty of fruit on them, plants currently around 1.5m/5 feet tall and not one fruit on any of the plants starting to ripen. I shall be posting pictures when they do.

[Whwoz]

Elbonian Hip Deep is an @Tormato selection that I have been growing for several years now. Looks and tastes delicious, here are two, the cut one was used to save seed from. The only other Elbonian cultivar I am growing is Elbonian Mudslinger and there are marked differences between the two. Hip Deep would have to be classified as a potato leaf dwarf, just over half the height of Mudslinger and indeterminate potato leaf plant that is around shoulder high on me (I stand around 5'8" tall), meaning that Hip deep would be lucky to be 2.5 feet tall at the moment. This difference has been notable every time I have grown it and before it came my way. Hip deep has been supplying us with tomatoes for several weeks now, while I am yet to pick one off Mudslinger. Mudslinger appears to have slightly larger tomatoes overall on it also (3 plants of each var growing on opposite sides of the same bed, so as close to the same conditions as one can get), think 150 - 200g for Hipdeep, and I expect 250g or thereabouts for a lot of the Mudslingers.

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[NYTomatoNewbie]

@Whwoz Thank you, this is very helpful!!!

[Tormato]

Elbonian Mudslinger is supposed to be a black. But, it's only about an F3, so nowhere near stable.

I recommend saving seeds of whatever it produces. It's from the Wild Thyme line of selections, which have produced some great tasting varieties.

[Whwoz]

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The first of the Elbonian Mudslingers to ripen off the one plant. The two from single flowers are 230g/8.2 Oz and 256g/9.05 Oz, the double 463g/16.35 Oz. A day or two before I taste one of them.

[Whwoz]

From the middle of three plants

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The big one is just on 14 Oz/400 g. The smallest is 6 Oz/170g. A couple of the small ones are grub affected and will be the first ones tasted.

[Whwoz]

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The first one ripe on plant three, the Southern most plant that was not badly grub eaten.300g/10.7 Oz of meaty yumminess, rated as good but not "I want it all" by daughter.

There are boat shaped fruit out there @Tormato , any preference as to shape or size I keep seed from?

[Tormato]

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The first one ripe on plant three, the Southern most plant that was not badly grub eaten.300g/10.7 Oz of meaty yumminess, rated as good but not "I want it all" by daughter.

There are boat shaped fruit out there @Tormato , any preference as to shape or size I keep seed from?

If you think there may be differences enough that you may have more than one line, I'd just record what you have, and keep seeds from each plant separate. The only thing I care about is flavor, in selecting for traits.