So many things going wrong!

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Tue Sep 01, 2020 8:46 pm

I've had TRM before; I've read a lot about sulfur but also read reviews that it affects the taste of tomatoes. I've never bought or used it; it is cheap though. Last year, I bought Green Cleaner from the hydro store which also works and is much less scary than abamectin. However, from what I remember about Avid / abamectin is that you don't have to drench the plant for it to be effective. There is a lot of good info re: treatment of RM from the cannabis growers.
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Thu Sep 03, 2020 12:07 am

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I wanted to thank you all of you who took a moment to look, to @Ginger2778 , @Bower @peebee , @Nan6b @Barb_FL @MsCowpea who took the time to post, and to share an update, which is not good, but at least I've learned some things.

I am so thankful to have been spared fungal diseases for the last 25 years! This stuff is wicked!

I cut down most of the plants. I saw evidence of mites, but the foliage had more and more spots that I'm sure is some fungus, mayve early hlight, and in addition to the whitefly, what someone said was black mold. I also suspect some plants had nutritional problems that probably weakened them, because a week after feeding there was new growth and flowers.
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Post: # 29757Unread post Ginger2778
Thu Sep 03, 2020 6:30 am

Mites weaken the plant, it loses a lot of natural defenses so it gets fungus. Bleach spray will be the final nail in the coffin. I do see some Septoria, I do not see any grey or black mold at all. There is severe mite damage. I will send you a pm.
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Post: # 29786Unread post Shrinkrap
Thu Sep 03, 2020 3:34 pm

I think I posted this already. If so, sorry for the duplicate.

At this point I am focusing on saving my, peppers, what to do with the potting soil, and discarding the cut down plants.

I know I won't be putting the plants in my own composter, and wonder if it's better in our "yard waste" containers or our "garbage " container. I don't know how they process the yard waste stuff, but I imagine this particular pestilence is not common around here .
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Thu Sep 03, 2020 4:37 pm

I would put them in the garbage container. If you're disposal company is like mine here in So Cal all the yard waste stuff goes into the Compost process.
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Post: # 29797Unread post Shrinkrap
Thu Sep 03, 2020 5:14 pm

eyegrotom wrote:
Thu Sep 03, 2020 4:37 pm
I would put them in the garbage container. If you're disposal company is like mine here in So Cal all the yard waste stuff goes into the Compost process.
Thank You! I was wondering if a city scale "hot composting" process would kill this beast. I know my own pile is not alwsys "hot".
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Fri Sep 04, 2020 12:08 am

Shrinkrap wrote:
Thu Sep 03, 2020 5:14 pm
eyegrotom wrote:
Thu Sep 03, 2020 4:37 pm
I would put them in the garbage container. If you're disposal company is like mine here in So Cal all the yard waste stuff goes into the Compost process.
Thank You! I was wondering if a city scale "hot composting" process would kill this beast. I know my own pile is not alwsys "hot".
This is exactly why I would never ever get the free compost offered by the city. You don't know what's in there. We gardeners know not to throw diseased plants in the green recycling bin, but others may not know or care. Long ago I told someone about free compost, though I'd never personally gotten any. He returned with a small bag to show me what was mixed in the compost: broken glass, pieces of metal, cigarette butts... needless to say he left without getting any 😕
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Daconil/chlorothalonil

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Sun Sep 06, 2020 4:04 pm

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I am trying to keep this on one thread. Someone let me know if that's a mistake?

Can someone advise me on this? Turns out I have two brands of this, as well as “copper” fungicide, but can’t remember the last time I used it. I somehow remember losing an apricot tree, spraying a fungicide, but it was a very long time ago.

I’ve sacrificed almost all my tomato plants, unprecedented for me, especially in September, and I don’t want to lose my peppers too.

The peppers look pretty good, but spots I would have let nature deal with are now concerning me.

The peppers in question are poblanos, aji amarillo, scotch bonnet, rocatillo, fresno, Hungarian hot wax, and a manzano, although the manzano seems unaffected.

Here’s a few pics. There are still ashes from past and present fires, and the spider mites they reveal. Pretty sure there are nutritional deficiencies (cal and mag), and leafminers as well, but I’m afraid I’m in denial about the need to take action against fungus and bacteria.
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Post: # 30020Unread post Ginger2778
Sun Sep 06, 2020 4:37 pm

@Shrinkrap I don't see any photos.
Edit - they just showed up!
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Post: # 30022Unread post Bower
Sun Sep 06, 2020 5:01 pm

I see the photos but I don't know what advice to give. They look much better than the tomatoes, but the bad bits do look like the same "so many things".
I just remembered RobinB had a technique for mites on peppers, where you mix DE and water and a little soap, spray it on the whole plant, and when it dries it is a surface that insects can't crawl or live on.
Downside would be the broad spectrum effect on any insect beneficials that visit those plants.
With regards the fungus I would just prune off the affected leaves before it takes over the whole plant, that is, if they're not bad as it seems in the pics.
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Post: # 30024Unread post Ginger2778
Sun Sep 06, 2020 5:09 pm

Shrinkwrap, they look healthy enough. Don't need a fungicide that I can see.
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Post: # 30283Unread post Shrinkrap
Thu Sep 10, 2020 3:14 am

Thank you all!
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Post: # 30289Unread post brownrexx
Thu Sep 10, 2020 7:49 am

They look good to me too. My peppers don't look perfect but they are starting to put out some beautiful bell peppers now that the weather has cooled a bit.
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