Blackened Tomatoes better than Black Krim ???
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PPP X PP-C! Denise S. sent me that one (F1, or F2) about 15 years ago. Will it ever get a name?Paulf wrote: ↑Thu Dec 31, 2020 9:52 am Black Krim must do well in some areas better than here. I have never had success with that variety in my garden. I do agree that Carbon is a nice choice along with my standard Cherokee Purple. I love to experiment with "blacks" and these are some that have proven themselves here in alphabetical order rather than by preference:
Akers West Virginia Black
Amazon Chocolate RL
Bear Creek
Black Bear
Black Burgundy
Black Cherry
Black Giant
Cherokee Black
Clear Lake...a new favorite Black
Daniel Burson
Indische Fleisch
PPP X PP-C...pale perfect purple X purple price cross
Vorlon
A couple of varieties often mentioned are D.B. Cooper and J.D.s Special C-Tex but here I have not had success along with Black Krim. Another, Big Cheef I have only grown once and while it was OK I need more experience before suggesting it as a good one.
Several of the blacks in the Dwarft Project could be named but my participation may have been early in the process and may not be accurate for the final product.
I enjoy growing "blacks" just to see what is what and will try all the suggestions I have not grown before.
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Thanks for the replies they were all helpful. I put that out there because I got carried away with ordering blackened tomato seeds. I grow out in the open air, and don't assist pollination. So I try to grow a potential preferred variety in a group, and select a fruit seed from a plant in the center. I also have a goal of staying under 85 plants. For this reason, I needed to cut my darkened group planting down to just 3 varieties. I may grow singles, or doubles of the others. I've got to also do a drought-- heat tolerant competition. I need to seek out a replacement for Sunray. I only have 3 varieties chosen for that. The selection field is smaller, and I've grown many that are in it. The issue with Black Kim was never about taste. If you google best tasting tomatoes. You will see Black Krim is on almost all the short lists. Krim has a serious cracking problem. And is an average--or less producer. They rank Krim as heat tolerant, but I can't see it. Krim has average disease resistance, at best. Krim had been with me at least a dozen years. Only Sunsugar has been with me longer.
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Black from Tula is indeed nice, so is Black Sea man.
However, if you liked Black Krim.. I'd really recommend Noire de Crimee, its French 'strain' so to speak.
Thanks to Carolyn's excellent advice back then, I tried and grew it (seeds from MMM..), and was impressed with the productivity, growing habit, the flavour and even frost resistance... The fruits were more compact than BK, and there were more of them in a branch. Cracking (radial or otherwise) was not an issue.
However, if you liked Black Krim.. I'd really recommend Noire de Crimee, its French 'strain' so to speak.
Thanks to Carolyn's excellent advice back then, I tried and grew it (seeds from MMM..), and was impressed with the productivity, growing habit, the flavour and even frost resistance... The fruits were more compact than BK, and there were more of them in a branch. Cracking (radial or otherwise) was not an issue.
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Re: Blackened Tomatoes better than Black Krim ???
Indian Stripe, Paul Robeson & Big Cheef are some of our favorites.
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Polaris is another really good one
https://store.growartisan.com/product/polaris-tomato
https://store.growartisan.com/product/polaris-tomato
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Dana's Dusky Rose is another great one
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I liked Black Sea Man. I think it is semi-determinate. Would grow it again. Although, mine got hit hard with blossom drop during a heat wave.
Trying Carbon, Japanese Black Trifele and JD's Special C-Tex this season.
Trying Carbon, Japanese Black Trifele and JD's Special C-Tex this season.
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Re: Blackened Tomatoes better than Black Krim ???
Nope, sticking with BK, it proved more reliable for me that Sea Man or Tula or Carbon. YMMV. GaryO' Sena is getting a second look at this point, because the one or two I harvested last year were very tasty, but there were production issues then.
There is no such thing as too many tomatoes, and anyone who tells you otherwise should be shunned --you don't need that kind of negativity in your life.
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SW Houston, Zone 9A
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I really like Carbon, Cold Black Brandy, and Paul Robeson for flavor. I haven't tried Black Krim, yet. A SunChocola F2 I grew in 2020 was excellent.
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I always grow Black Krim because of the great flavor, even if it is a bit stingy. But I also always include a couple of other great varieties. One is Grandma Oliver’s Chocolate, which is very productive and fantastic flavored variety. The other variety I have grown for many year is one you don’t read much about, but one I really love called Chocolate Beefsteak. I originally got the seeds from a fellow volunteer at an event we participated in. I haven’t seen him post on the tomato boards lately, but his avatar was Casino. This is a beautiful and delicious tomato. It was discussed in this thread. http://www.tomatoville.com/showthread.php?t=17012. I don’t see that seeds are available, I can save some this summer.