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Re: New variety you are growing for 2021? And second attempts?
Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2021 12:01 am
by westside bengal
NEW VARIETIES:
1) Dwarf Project tomatoes. I have seeds from 21 varieties and trying to whittle the list down to 12. I hate making decisions about which tomatoes to grow so I will probably start a couple of all 21 and decide on planting day. And embarrassing to say, but more than once I have planted a tomato and within a day or two changed my mind and pulled a plant out and put another variety in its place. My wife says I have Tomato Issues........
2) Ramapo F1. I have heard good things about this tomato. It was developed in 1968 and was quite popular in New Jersey area. After a while it fell out of favor and dropped by all the seed catalogs. It was reintroduced a few years ago and I plan to give it a try.
3) Rutgers 250. My Dad taught me how to garden and always had Rutgers in the garden and so did every old time gardener I ever met. It was used commercially and had good fresh eating qualities. I have read a few times that for a lot of years Rutgers was the benchmark for new varieties. The newer tomatoes were either sweeter than Rutgers, more acidic than Rutgers, bigger, smaller, more productive, etc. Rutgers 250 is sort of a reintroduction of the original. Seeds from the original parents----J.T.D. and Marglobe were found at Campbell's storage vault, crossed and selected at Rutgers University and released on the 250th anniversary of the school. In honor of my Dad who was trying out heirloom tomatoes long before heirlooms became cool I am going to give this a place this year.
4) Federle. I have always grown Amish Paste and Opalka as my paste tomato. I have seen good reviews on Federle and is on several grow lists over the years so I decided to try this one.
SECOND CHANCES:
All my second chances are from seeds found in my saved seed box and were last grown in 2008 or 2009. I do not remember any issues with these, they all performed well, tasted good and at least reasonable production. By that time I had jumped on the Heirloom Express and with a limited space garden and every year thinking I had to try the hot new thing I just never got around to growing them again. Did I tell you my wife said I have Tomato Issues?
1) Gardeners Delight (AKA SUGAR LUMP and 2) Riesntraube. I am growing both of these red cherries tomatoes this year. Sungold and Black Cherry have been and still are my cherry tomato champions. Every year I seem to try a new red cherry. A lot of them are good but something always seems to be lacking. So I am changing direction a bit and going to germinate these old seeds. Although Gardeners Delight is a bit sweeter both of these cherry tomatoes have what I call full tomato flavor. I have friends that grow one or the other and I think that flavor profile is lacking in a lot of newer cherry tomatoes.
3) Goat Bag or Goatbag. IIRC back in 2006 or 2007 I stopped at our local farmers market looking for some late season sweet corn. A gentleman had a pickup and as I walked closer realized he selling peaches. I bought a few pounds and we struck up a conversation about my favorite topic, tomatoes. After a few minutes he asked if I had ever heard of a tomato called Goat Bag? I said no and he proceeded to tell me that another man came up from Kentucky to cut some lumber on his farm and brought a few tomatoes plants named Goat Bag. He said he got them from an old farmer in Kentucky. The man at the farmers market told me they were really large tomatoes and said he grew them in cages and had to put sticks sideways though the cages to support the stems. He opened his truck door, reached in and pulled out this giant heart shaped tomato, holding it with both hands. He said I could have it for 50c. I gave him a dollar bill. I took it home cut it open. It tasted good with few seeds. I saved the seeds to grow for the next season. I grew it for a couple of seasons. It was healthy, fairly productive and while large I never had any two handers. I just never got around to growing it again. It is on the list for this season.
4) Wessel's Purple Pride. My first time at CHOPTAG a man brought some tomato plants that everyone was talking about. He had a cross between Sausage paste tomato and Cherokee Purple. I grew it that summer and produced a paste tomato the color of Cherokee Purple including the green shoulders. It was productive, tasted good and was a great addition to salsa. It was on many grow lists for a few years. I have not grown it since 2009. I don't know why.
This is my list new or redo list and I am sticking with it.....maybe.
Re: New variety you are growing for 2021? And second attempts?
Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2021 9:32 am
by Gardadore
Ramapo is one of the few hybrid tomatoes I have grown in recent years. It was excellent. But too many other heirlooms have taken its place because of space. I really should find room for it again but not this year!
Re: New variety you are growing for 2021? And second attempts?
Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2021 10:38 am
by Gardadore
Half of my grow list comprise new varieties or regrows of new ones that did poorly last year or were not true.
NEW ONES
Adora
Aunt Eula’s Rockhouse Yellow
Basajaun AKA Inigo
Cherokee Golden
Corazon or Corno de Boi de Emilio
Curtis Cheek new because last summer’s was not true
Dwarf Maralinga
Eva’s Purple Ball
Faelan’s First Snow
German Queen PL
Goatbag
HarvardSquare
Karma Apricot New because last summer’s was not this variety. Pack mismarked?
Mortgage Lifter (Happy)
Lithium (Sunset)
RGN14
Reinhard Kraft's Chocolate Heart
Reinhard Kraft’s GWR Heart
Rosedale
Thorburn’s Terra-Cotta
True Colors
Turkey Creek (SE 21)
Zebra Rita (C for 2020
GROWING AGAIN For some reason probably our high humidity for days on end many plants were weak or got disease. The new hearts from Karen O really disappointed so must have a regrow.
African Queen Should have done better so am regrowing
Bull’s Heart Yellow Tatarstan (my own name from seed collected when in Russia) was excellent and worth it again
Carbon Growing again after many years
Midnight Sun Should have performed better. Needs another chance.
Moldovan Green Did poorly; needs another chance
Polaris Did poorly so needs another chance
Red Tatarstan Beefsteak (my own saved seed from tomato I got in Russia) Was superb so must have again
Rosella Cherry Superb so must have again!
Taiga Only got one tomato so must try again!
Tundra Produced late with only two tomatoes so must try again
Then there are all the old favorites which belong in a different thread.
Re: New variety you are growing for 2021? And second attempts?
Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2021 11:37 am
by westside bengal
Gardadore,
I am wondering where you got your Goatbag seeds from?
Re: New variety you are growing for 2021? And second attempts?
Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2021 12:48 am
by Gardadore
Renaissancefarms.org. They have grown it for awhile and kept selecting the largest to collect seeds. Very curious how that will be! I originally went to the site because they introduced Curtis Cheek and then found some other interesting ones like Harvard Square and the two Reinhard Kraft ones. Used them for the first time this year and all went smoothly.
Re: New variety you are growing for 2021? And second attempts?
Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2021 4:08 pm
by karstopography
Blue Ribbon, a mid season medium large red globe shaped hybrid indeterminate. Said to have good disease and nematode resistance.
Big Beef, never grown it, but I hope it too will be a bullet proof high production red tomato.
Re: New variety you are growing for 2021? And second attempts?
Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2021 8:45 pm
by jmsieglaff
In addition to a few varieties I grow every year, I am growing 3 varieties in 2021 that I first grew in 2020. Needless to say, they made quite the impression. Those tomatoes are: Rosella (indet. pink/purple cherry from Gourmet Genetics), Tundra (purple heart from Karen Olivier), and Dwarf Emerald Giant (delicious GWR beefsteak from the Dwarf Project).
Re: New variety you are growing for 2021? And second attempts?
Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2021 12:28 am
by Albertan
I'm going to try for the first time Malachite Box, Severnye, and Sibirskiy Velikan Rzovyi, Anna's Multi Flora, Danko, Anna Banana Russian, Budenovka Red, and Campari OP.
Second attempts are ones that were pretty good tomatoes but not the best production the last time; hoping they will fare better in a better spot: George Detsikas, Chocolate Stripes, and Tsar Kolokol.
Re: New variety you are growing for 2021? And second attempts?
Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2021 2:09 pm
by svalli
I just finished my grow-list for this year and I have 18 new ones and 4, which I have grown earlier. I ordered some new varieties this year and took part in one seed chain letter, from which I got new varieties to grow.
My new ones are:
Blush
Brandyfred
Dwarf Shadow Boxing
Grusha Rozovaya
Hana
Himbeer Riesen
Michael Pollan
Pink Passion
Pipo
Rio Grande
Ropreco Paste
Safari Dwarf
Sasha's Altai
Sleeping Lady Dwarf
Sweet Linda
Venus F2
Weisser Pfirsich
Zlatava
I have labels ready and seed starting tray filled with moler (Danish DE), but now it is past my bedtime, so tomorrow is time for sowing the seeds.
Sari
Re: New variety you are growing for 2021? And second attempts?
Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2021 2:56 pm
by Dee
I'm having a hard time narrowing the number of varieties down to what I can reasonably grow in the space I have, but new-to-me this year will be...
Ropreco
EM-Champion (thank you, [mention]Labradors[/mention] !)
Azoychka
Neves Azorean
Gary O’Sena
Kozula 24
Valencia
Mrs Schlaubaugh’s Famous Strawberry (thank you, [mention]FarmerShawn[/mention] !)
Kosovo -or- Andean
Emalia -or- Maglia Rosa
...and possibly Amurskiy Tiger, Indian Moon, Zolotoe Serdtse, Aunt Lou’s Underground Railroad (all from [mention]FarmerShawn[/mention] ), or Wentzell (a Nova Scotian heirloom).
Re: New variety you are growing for 2021? And second attempts?
Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2021 3:36 pm
by Paquebot
Every year, almost all new. Often what results is total surprise.
Amethyst Jewel
Anna Maria's Heart
Arumugan
Big Red
Black Amber
Black Hole Sun
Cherokee Green
Council Bluff
Dark Galaxy
Floridade
Fleur de Reagir
Franchi Italian Red
Giant Rul
Independence Day
Kinalabasa
Korol Rannikh
Korena's Plum
Lemon Green
Lovisuda
Rosalie's Big Rosy
Ruffled Apple
Serdtse Bulvolo
Sheryll
Sojourner South American
Stokesdale
Tator of Mongolistan
Tacoh Tepee
Vincent's White
Wendy
Wild Rose
Zheffen Short
I tried to get a wide assortment of size and color. Also determinate and indeterminate. No boredom in this hobby!
Martin
Re: New variety you are growing for 2021? And second attempts?
Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2021 3:42 pm
by Tormahto
westside bengal wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 12:01 am
NEW VARIETIES:
1) Dwarf Project tomatoes. I have seeds from 21 varieties and trying to whittle the list down to 12. I hate making decisions about which tomatoes to grow so I will probably start a couple of all 21 and decide on planting day. And embarrassing to say, but more than once I have planted a tomato and within a day or two changed my mind and pulled a plant out and put another variety in its place. My wife says I have Tomato Issues........
2) Ramapo F1. I have heard good things about this tomato. It was developed in 1968 and was quite popular in New Jersey area. After a while it fell out of favor and dropped by all the seed catalogs. It was reintroduced a few years ago and I plan to give it a try.
3) Rutgers 250. My Dad taught me how to garden and always had Rutgers in the garden and so did every old time gardener I ever met. It was used commercially and had good fresh eating qualities. I have read a few times that for a lot of years Rutgers was the benchmark for new varieties. The newer tomatoes were either sweeter than Rutgers, more acidic than Rutgers, bigger, smaller, more productive, etc. Rutgers 250 is sort of a reintroduction of the original. Seeds from the original parents----J.T.D. and Marglobe were found at Campbell's storage vault, crossed and selected at Rutgers University and released on the 250th anniversary of the school. In honor of my Dad who was trying out heirloom tomatoes long before heirlooms became cool I am going to give this a place this year.
4) Federle. I have always grown Amish Paste and Opalka as my paste tomato. I have seen good reviews on Federle and is on several grow lists over the years so I decided to try this one.
SECOND CHANCES:
All my second chances are from seeds found in my saved seed box and were last grown in 2008 or 2009. I do not remember any issues with these, they all performed well, tasted good and at least reasonable production. By that time I had jumped on the Heirloom Express and with a limited space garden and every year thinking I had to try the hot new thing I just never got around to growing them again. Did I tell you my wife said I have Tomato Issues?
1) Gardeners Delight (AKA SUGAR LUMP and 2) Riesntraube. I am growing both of these red cherries tomatoes this year. Sungold and Black Cherry have been and still are my cherry tomato champions. Every year I seem to try a new red cherry. A lot of them are good but something always seems to be lacking. So I am changing direction a bit and going to germinate these old seeds. Although Gardeners Delight is a bit sweeter both of these cherry tomatoes have what I call full tomato flavor. I have friends that grow one or the other and I think that flavor profile is lacking in a lot of newer cherry tomatoes.
3) Goat Bag or Goatbag. IIRC back in 2006 or 2007 I stopped at our local farmers market looking for some late season sweet corn. A gentleman had a pickup and as I walked closer realized he selling peaches. I bought a few pounds and we struck up a conversation about my favorite topic, tomatoes. After a few minutes he asked if I had ever heard of a tomato called Goat Bag? I said no and he proceeded to tell me that another man came up from Kentucky to cut some lumber on his farm and brought a few tomatoes plants named Goat Bag. He said he got them from an old farmer in Kentucky. The man at the farmers market told me they were really large tomatoes and said he grew them in cages and had to put sticks sideways though the cages to support the stems. He opened his truck door, reached in and pulled out this giant heart shaped tomato, holding it with both hands. He said I could have it for 50c. I gave him a dollar bill. I took it home cut it open. It tasted good with few seeds. I saved the seeds to grow for the next season. I grew it for a couple of seasons. It was healthy, fairly productive and while large I never had any two handers. I just never got around to growing it again. It is on the list for this season.
4) Wessel's Purple Pride. My first time at CHOPTAG a man brought some tomato plants that everyone was talking about. He had a cross between Sausage paste tomato and Cherokee Purple. I grew it that summer and produced a paste tomato the color of Cherokee Purple including the green shoulders. It was productive, tasted good and was a great addition to salsa. It was on many grow lists for a few years. I have not grown it since 2009. I don't know why.
This is my list new or redo list and I am sticking with it.....maybe.
Unless your saved seed box was in the freezer, you may have tomato issues of seed viability. Beyond 7-year old seed, I get near 0% germination.
Re: New variety you are growing for 2021? And second attempts?
Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2021 4:47 pm
by westside bengal
Refrigerator but not freezer. I am concerned I might get only a few or maybe not at all. I did plant a few of each in small solo cups and put in plastic bags a couple of days ago to see what happens which is something I should have done over the holidays.
I do have other varieties to choose from that are "younger" but these are the oldest. I usually do not start my tomato seeds till mid March to plant early May.
Re: New variety you are growing for 2021? And second attempts?
Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2021 8:43 am
by karstopography
Another couple of new ones for me this year is Moneymaker and Dixie Red, although I might have had Dixie red in a fall trial once before.
Moneymaker is supposed to be a 4-6 ounce round type and prolific indeterminate open pollinated tomato variety that handles heat well and resists disease.
Dixie Red is a hybrid determinant that produces lots of medium large flattened tomatoes and has much of the disease fighting genetic package and heat tolerance that can make or break my efforts here along the humid Texas coast.
Up to 21 total plants now, 11 hopefully productive hybrids and 10 open pollinated. Not sure I’ll put any more in, but there’s still some room to. 21 plants reasonably should produce enough for all I can eat fresh and some leftovers to share and then some good amount to freeze.
Re: New variety you are growing for 2021? And second attempts?
Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2021 4:11 am
by Amateurinawe
So this year there are so many new varieties thanks to Gary and y'all. As well as lots of peppers and chillies, the planted, sprouted and growing list is (in no particular order).
Heidi
Polish c
Pink sweet
Pale perfect purple
Reid red heart
Mule team
Manyel
Eagle beak
Oxacan jewel
Stupice
Honey and sugar
Pink Berkeley tie dye
Amazon chocolate
Big beef f1
Neves azorean
Aunt eulas rockhouse
Ggwt
Aunt Ginny purple
Zhefen short
Striped stuffer
Esters ML
Kellogg breakfast
Hughs large yellow
Black from tula
Malinovaya zebra
Red pear
Yellow pear x indigo rose
SOTW
Bloody butcher
Fred Limbaugh
Pomplemouse De grand pere
Green zebra
Aunt Ginny purple
Aftershock
Cherokee purple
Dolly parton
MSITK
Indiana stripe
Galapagos
Speckled Roman
Brads atomic grape
Orange jazz
Dr Carolyn white
Marzano fire
Prudents purple
Yellow Brandywine (platfoot)
Long tom
Hawaiian pineapple
Indigo rose x gardeners delight
Grossee cotelee
Bulgarian #7
Jaunne flamee
Wapsipinicon peach
Menorcan slicer
Alicante x indigo rose
Lime green salad
Tasmanian chocolate
Tiny Tim micro
There are a couple more Russian types I want to grow but I have no space, greenhouse hasn't arrived yet, and there are no window sills left in the house and things are growing fast.
I shouldn't count cablucks chickens yet, but I just moved my problem of having lots of seed to now having lots of seedlings.
Still excited but need to get onions and carrots going too.
Re: New variety you are growing for 2021? And second attempts?
Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2021 11:01 am
by rossomendblot
That's a list and a half

Some of those are on my (long) future growlist. Looking forward to seeing how they do for you in our climate.
Re: New variety you are growing for 2021? And second attempts?
Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2021 11:49 am
by Amateurinawe
[mention]rossomendblot[/mention] here's hoping for a decent summer. When the greenhouse comes that will help with some of the chillies and the dwarf tomatoes.
Onions now started,
Bedfordshire champion
Red baron
Long red Florence
Ailsa Craig
Tropea rossa lunga
Some celeriac, watercress and various herbs for pots.
Carrots will have to wait a few more days....
Re: New variety you are growing for 2021? And second attempts?
Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2021 5:45 pm
by Hatgirl
Inkspot, Spanish Dancer, and Shimofuri are growing away happily. It's frustrating to wait so long before I find out how they taste!
Re: New variety you are growing for 2021? And second attempts?
Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2021 9:39 am
by Rockoe10
karstopography wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 8:43 am
....
Moneymaker is supposed to be a 4-6 ounce round type and prolific indeterminate open pollinated tomato variety that handles heat well and resists disease.
......
I grew this variety last year. That description is very accurate. My seed had some variance, due to cross pollination by the seed provider. The plant that looked the weakest during germination ended up being the best producer.
20200731_164855.jpg
Best of luck this coming season
PS
All the Tomatoes you see in this photo are from ONE PLANT.

Also, there was BER, so plan accordingly
Re: New variety you are growing for 2021? And second attempts?
Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2021 9:53 am
by mama_lor
Not sure heat resistant is what I would use to describe it. Of course, by now there are probably more than one tomato circulating under that name. One interesting characteristic is that it incredibly susceptible to sunscald even in conditions where I never saw sunscald (probably due to it being selected to perform in the poor light conditions in the UK). Very vigorous, productive, nice shape, taste is not bad.