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Re: Parthenocarpic cucumber

Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2022 6:27 pm
by AKgardener
I have big dreams I guess haha I’m hoping for a cucumber

Re: Parthenocarpic cucumber

Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2022 11:15 pm
by JRinPA
ouch...thanks for the input L. I think I'll pass again on cucumbers. I'm hoping they work in that Alaska GH though, looks like a nice setup.

I'll keep the Armenian cucumber in mind.

Re: Parthenocarpic cucumber

Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2022 2:18 am
by peebee
I don't think Summer Dance is parthenocarpic, but as a typical Japanese cuke it has very small seeds, some call these Asian kinds seedless but they all have some degree of seeds. Anyways, this one blew my mind last year, I had a super crop in my Earthboxes. I was very happy, as I had run out of seeds from Japan, unable to travel due to covid. So I bought seeds online, there are several vendors selling them. This year I ordered from Seeds N Such when they had free shipping. I got last year from Kitagawa Seeds.

Re: Parthenocarpic cucumber

Posted: Sun May 01, 2022 10:42 pm
by AKgardener
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So far so good getting ready to put them in there new home started a few more just in case

Re: Parthenocarpic cucumber

Posted: Mon May 02, 2022 12:46 am
by svalli
Those are absolutely wonderful and healthy looking plants you have @AKgardener!

My parthenocarpic greenhouse cucumbers have just germinated. I am growing five different kinds this year: Delistar, Hopeline, Louisa, Max and Passandra. Hopeline is a new one to me and I wonder if it really is as prolific as on the pictures on the seed vendors' websites.

Sari

Re: Parthenocarpic cucumber

Posted: Mon May 02, 2022 4:43 am
by mama_lor
The so called english type of cucumbers are very good tasting and the partenocarpic varieties have the potential for massive production. They are however very picky with conditions, not really best for the casual gardener. High night temps, high soil humidity, high fertilization, and especially no disease pressure.

The mini english which are gaining popularity now, are a lot less fussy. Like Passandra, quite reliable.

Re: Parthenocarpic cucumber

Posted: Mon May 02, 2022 11:14 am
by Tormahto
peebee wrote: Wed Apr 13, 2022 2:18 am I don't think Summer Dance is parthenocarpic, but as a typical Japanese cuke it has very small seeds, some call these Asian kinds seedless but they all have some degree of seeds. Anyways, this one blew my mind last year, I had a super crop in my Earthboxes. I was very happy, as I had run out of seeds from Japan, unable to travel due to covid. So I bought seeds online, there are several vendors selling them. This year I ordered from Seeds N Such when they had free shipping. I got last year from Kitagawa Seeds.
Kitazawa is now part of True Leaf Market. The great seeds and service continues.

Re: Parthenocarpic cucumber

Posted: Mon May 02, 2022 12:38 pm
by AKgardener
I started Katrina as well just in case I have a back up plan

Re: Parthenocarpic cucumber

Posted: Tue May 03, 2022 12:33 am
by Gardadore
I purchased Beit Alpha from Baker Creek. Curious to see how that works. Socrates keeps getting eaten before I can get it really going. Think I ‘ll try that in a container this year.

Re: Parthenocarpic cucumber

Posted: Fri May 06, 2022 12:14 pm
by AKgardener
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So far so good

Re: Parthenocarpic cucumber

Posted: Sat May 21, 2022 8:59 pm
by YSEF
I don't think anyone has mentioned Row7 Seeds 7082 Experimental Cucumber. This is my 3rd season growing them; in 2020 I grew them outside (!), some under netting, and a good many still didn't develop seeds (or I took them a bit early). In 2021 and now in 2022 I'm growing in a high tunnel in an internal nethouse.

The 7082 is gynoecious and parthenocarpic, and Row7 said it was bred to get bitterness back into the plant. The best tasting cuke I've ever had and quite if not totally pest/PM resistant.

Picture below is today from my growing project, in which only 6 out of 17 total barrels (on the right; 2 plants in each barrel) are showing anything close to production maturity. These will grow for 3 months straight - and straight out of the nethouse upper confines.
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Re: Parthenocarpic cucumber

Posted: Sun May 22, 2022 5:05 pm
by AKgardener
Holy that’s a lot of cucumbers I just learned of the parthenocarpic 2 months ago I had no idea they even were a thing otherwise I would of tryed years ago!! The plants look great

Re: Parthenocarpic cucumber

Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2022 1:22 pm
by AKgardener
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Mine are doing great so far

Re: Parthenocarpic cucumber

Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2022 8:40 am
by YSEF
Shule wrote: Sat Apr 09, 2022 10:00 pm @JRinPA
I'm not sure about the answer to your question, but you might consider trying a different species, like Armenian cucumbers (C. melo; I recommend Metki Dark Green Serpent) or Liso Calcutta gherkins (C. anguria).
I'm trying an Armenian Cucumber for the first time this year since I started having success against cuke beetles (not sure how that happened besides extreme vigilance the last few years and luck in the hoop the past 1.5 years). Called a Palestinian Fakous by Experimental Farm Network. These are not the strongest plants among my cucurbits, let me tell ya. Really looking forward to tasting; they are just flowering now (mostly if not all male flowers).

Re: Parthenocarpic cucumber

Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2022 5:19 pm
by AKgardener
Already got to harvest cucumbers!!! Finally haha

Re: Parthenocarpic cucumber

Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2022 11:28 pm
by JRinPA
AKGardener - Good tasting, too, I hope.

YSEF - how does one get those seeds - Row7 Seeds 7082 Experimental Cucumber.

I really have no interest in trying cucumbers again until I have seed that will survive much better than "marketmore" or "straight 8" does. I don't hardly eat cucumbers though, I know some people that love them, eat them raw on salads, all that yucky stuff :lol: They probably try harder than I do to keep them alive.

Re: Parthenocarpic cucumber

Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2022 5:28 am
by YSEF
JR, here is the link, and you read other types of info like suggested cooking (!!) - maybe that will help with you liking cukes?
https://www.row7seeds.com/products/7082-cucumber
Sold out unfortunately.
As I have mentioned, in SW OH I find this is a tank against beetles. Now yeah, I pick some off, yeah in some years I've used cuke beetle traps and most importantly in some years lots and lots of trap flowers of yellow squash nearly - but still...I literally never had luck until 3 years ago. My success in this instance must be due - in part - to the disease resistance of the 7082.
JRinPA wrote: Fri Jun 10, 2022 11:28 pm AKGardener - Good tasting, too, I hope.

YSEF - how does one get those seeds - Row7 Seeds 7082 Experimental Cucumber.

I really have no interest in trying cucumbers again until I have seed that will survive much better than "marketmore" or "straight 8" does. I don't hardly eat cucumbers though, I know some people that love them, eat them raw on salads, all that yucky stuff :lol: They probably try harder than I do to keep them alive.

Re: Parthenocarpic cucumber

Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2022 5:45 pm
by AKgardener
@JRinPA

Yes those were really good taisting my husband said they are a must every year now so finally nailed it !!

Re: Parthenocarpic cucumber

Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2022 1:56 am
by habitat-gardener
I grew Mercury F1 this year and it has not had even a hint of bitterness — I think that’s a first in this climate! We’ve had long heat waves and then finally a big rain a couple weeks ago. Since the ground was pretty wet, I didn’t get to the garden for several days and when I did, there were 8 cucumbers! Usually I get 2-4. Most were quite a bit fatter than usual, but still crisp, thin-skinned, with small seeds. It’s parthenocarpic and gynoecious.

Re: Parthenocarpic cucumber

Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2022 9:02 am
by GoDawgs
Gardadore wrote: Tue May 03, 2022 12:33 am I purchased Beit Alpha from Baker Creek. Curious to see how that works. Socrates keeps getting eaten before I can get it really going. Think I ‘ll try that in a container this year.
I grew a few plants on a trellis this summer and it didn't do much. Too much heat here?

Curious to know how did yours turned out.