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Re: Disguising Price Increases
Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2023 6:57 am
by worth1
Something I've never seen in my life.
Jalapeños have always been the cheapest pepper you could buy.
Poblanos have always been more expensive.
Yesterday I wanted some Poblanos for something and I have for the most part for several years now replaced bell peppers with poblanos because they were less expensive and actually tasted like something.
Well anyway I noticed the price of Jalapeños were something like $1.09 a pound and poblanos were .69 a pound.
I couldn't believe my eyes.
Nice fresh crispy ones too.
I filled up a sack full of the rascals.
As far as I'm concerned with only a few exceptions anything you can do with a bell pepper you can do it better with a poblano.
I'm going to make a nice beef vegetable soup with some.
Re: Disguising Price Increases
Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2023 11:46 am
by Tormahto
Has anyone been following the $27/kg chicken breast story out of Toronto?
Re: Disguising Price Increases
Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2023 11:55 am
by Labradors
Tormato, I just checked it out. How ridiculous is that?
I bought some whole chickens for $2 a pound a couple of days ago. NOT from Loblaws!!!!!!
Linda
Re: Disguising Price Increases
Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2023 2:28 pm
by Lemonboy
These are the Kobe beef of chicken breasts. Or maybe the Swoon tomatoes of chicken breasts. To some extent buying them is a status play. But it's also organically raised chicken from a breed bred for flavor, not fast growth. If you want to impress someone or really enjoy your Chicken Kiev these are the way to go.
When local news wants to talk about inflation it's easiest to get a reaction if they just tell an inexperienced reporter to go find some really expensive groceries and talk about high prices. It also helps if they leave out half the facts.
If you want to raise the type of chickens that meat comes from, hatching eggs are about $75 a dozen with no guarantee of chickens and organic feed is twice the price of a commercial blend. And before you say that's crazy, when Marianna's Peace was first introduced seeds were selling for about $6 - each.
The $27/Kg is $12.27 per pound in Canadian money which is about $9.13/lb US.
Considering that plain old hamburger is more than $5/lb everywhere here, that chicken seems like a pretty good deal to me.
Re: Disguising Price Increases
Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2023 2:35 pm
by Tormahto
worth1 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 07, 2023 6:57 am
Something I've never seen in my life.
Jalapeños have always been the cheapest pepper you could buy.
Poblanos have always been more expensive.
Yesterday I wanted some Poblanos for something and I have for the most part for several years now replaced bell peppers with poblanos because they were less expensive and actually tasted like something.
Well anyway I noticed the price of Jalapeños were something like $1.09 a pound and poblanos were .69 a pound.
I couldn't believe my eyes.
Nice fresh crispy ones too.
I filled up a sack full of the rascals.
As far as I'm concerned with only a few exceptions anything you can do with a bell pepper you can do it better with a poblano.
I'm going to make a nice beef vegetable soup with some.
I have no idea what any hot peppers cost. I've never bought one in my life.
Re: Disguising Price Increases
Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2023 2:43 pm
by Lemonboy
Tormato wrote: ↑Sat Jan 07, 2023 2:35 pm
I have no idea what any hot peppers cost. I've never bought one in my life.
Me either, but my neice grew them this year and had to take her dogs to the vet's twice as a result. I'm guessing hers were more expensive than most.
Re: Disguising Price Increases
Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2023 2:55 pm
by bower
Salmon is routinely $23 a kilo here and the last time I looked at cod it was $28 a kilo. Various cuts of beef I never buy are also chronically high, and nothing new about those high prices.
We grew organic meat birds at the farm one season, and they cost $20 a bird for the feed alone! Yikes...
Re: Disguising Price Increases
Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2023 3:05 pm
by Tormahto
One local store has butt portion hams for .49/lb, another store has potatoes at .85 for 5 pounds.
I'll be looking online for a cream of potato with ham soup recipe.

Re: Disguising Price Increases
Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2023 3:09 pm
by Tormahto
Bower wrote: ↑Sat Jan 07, 2023 2:55 pm
Salmon is routinely $23 a kilo here and the last time I looked at cod it was $28 a kilo. Various cuts of beef I never buy are also chronically high, and nothing new about those high prices.
We grew organic meat birds at the farm one season, and they cost $20 a bird for the feed alone! Yikes...
I understand your cod fishing industry collapsed about 30 years ago. Has it ever returned?
Re: Disguising Price Increases
Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2023 3:11 pm
by worth1
Tormato wrote: ↑Sat Jan 07, 2023 2:35 pm
worth1 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 07, 2023 6:57 am
Something I've never seen in my life.
Jalapeños have always been the cheapest pepper you could buy.
Poblanos have always been more expensive.
Yesterday I wanted some Poblanos for something and I have for the most part for several years now replaced bell peppers with poblanos because they were less expensive and actually tasted like something.
Well anyway I noticed the price of Jalapeños were something like $1.09 a pound and poblanos were .69 a pound.
I couldn't believe my eyes.
Nice fresh crispy ones too.
I filled up a sack full of the rascals.
As far as I'm concerned with only a few exceptions anything you can do with a bell pepper you can do it better with a poblano.
I'm going to make a nice beef vegetable soup with some.
I have no idea what any hot peppers cost. I've never bought one in my life.
Chilies are a staple food for me dried powdered and fresh.
Mild or hot.
There is absolutely no way I could go through life without them.
I remember bringing my hot sauce to school in Missouri for lunch and the kids looking at me like I was some sort of freak.
Then the 3rd grade teacher slapping me for putting it on my lunch and making me cry.
I was freshly transplanted from Texas and I'll never forget that old bag.
Re: Disguising Price Increases
Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2023 3:32 pm
by Lemonboy
Tormato wrote: ↑Sat Jan 07, 2023 3:09 pm
Bower wrote: ↑Sat Jan 07, 2023 2:55 pm
Salmon is routinely $23 a kilo here and the last time I looked at cod it was $28 a kilo. Various cuts of beef I never buy are also chronically high, and nothing new about those high prices.
We grew organic meat birds at the farm one season, and they cost $20 a bird for the feed alone! Yikes...
I understand your cod fishing industry collapsed about 30 years ago. Has it ever returned?
IIRC, cod is still on the endangered species list. Not that that's stopped fishermen from catching it or consumers from eating it. Overfishing did lots of damage to the North Atlantic's ecosystem. The Pacific's too with tuna. Technology made it easier to track and keep up with the schools. Fish prices dropped and more people ate fish as a result. Which caused the marketing people to rename lots of formerly trash fish and cause them to be overfished too. The economics of large scale commercial fishing make seafood more affordable for the average consumer. But the real costs are paid elsewhere.
Re: Disguising Price Increases
Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2023 4:16 pm
by Uncle_Feist
I saw 16lb. cases of Tyson individually frozen and ice glazed raw chicken wings at the salvage store today. $10. If I'd had freezer room I would have bought one.
I did buy a 10lb. case of Eisenberg beef frank's and some $4/gallon Wesson vegetable oil.

Re: Disguising Price Increases
Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2023 7:35 pm
by bower
Tormato wrote: ↑Sat Jan 07, 2023 3:09 pm
Bower wrote: ↑Sat Jan 07, 2023 2:55 pm
Salmon is routinely $23 a kilo here and the last time I looked at cod it was $28 a kilo. Various cuts of beef I never buy are also chronically high, and nothing new about those high prices.
We grew organic meat birds at the farm one season, and they cost $20 a bird for the feed alone! Yikes...
I understand your cod fishing industry collapsed about 30 years ago. Has it ever returned?
"Commercially extinct" is what they call it. The stocks never returned to a commercially viable level.
There's a food fishery permitted now, where they let people go out and catch a few cod for personal consumption, for a couple of weekends every summer. If you don't have a boat, forget it. I'm not sure where the cod is coming from in the supermarket, some is probably bycatch in other fisheries.
The allocation of quotas before the crash was very political. The year before the moratorium there were protests from fishers and fish plant workers because of a possible cut to their quotas, so the politician in charge kept the quota the same. Next season it was just... over.
The fisheries that exist now are oriented to export markets. We don't see much benefit on our tables. Mussels are an exception, that seems to be managed well. Local mussels are good and not overpriced.
Re: Disguising Price Increases
Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2023 8:48 pm
by Tormahto
The local WalMart has about 100 frozen turkeys at .48 cents/lb, which means I've got some freezer rearranging to do. I have no room for 23 pound+ hollow whole birds, so it will be roasting, deboning, and packaging the meat of at least two of them. The turkey carcass broth will be reduced to a much greater concentrate than usual. Thighs will be eaten in a full turkey dinner way. White meat for soup, sandwiches, casseroles. And, after many years of searching for recipes of what to do with the dark meat drumsticks, the simple answer is BBQ sauce.
Re: Disguising Price Increases
Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2023 9:17 pm
by Uncle_Feist
I bought some really cheap coho salmon last week without freezer space.

Re: Disguising Price Increases
Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2023 7:37 am
by Danny
Uncle_Feist wrote: ↑Thu Jan 26, 2023 9:17 pm
I bought some really cheap coho salmon last week without freezer space.
How do you can up your salmon? Do you add water or broth or ???
Re: Disguising Price Increases
Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2023 2:40 pm
by Uncle_Feist
Danny wrote: ↑Fri Jan 27, 2023 7:37 am
Uncle_Feist wrote: ↑Thu Jan 26, 2023 9:17 pm
I bought some really cheap coho salmon last week without freezer space.
How do you can up your salmon? Do you add water or broth or ???
Just fish packed into a pint jars leaving 1" headspace. No liquid added. Process for 100 minutes at 11 psi.
Re: Disguising Price Increases
Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2023 4:39 pm
by GoDawgs
Tormato wrote: ↑Thu Jan 26, 2023 8:48 pm
The local WalMart has about 100 frozen turkeys at .48 cents/lb, which means I've got some freezer rearranging to do. I have no room for 23 pound+ hollow whole birds, so it will be roasting, deboning, and packaging the meat of at least two of them. The turkey carcass broth will be reduced to a much greater concentrate than usual. Thighs will be eaten in a full turkey dinner way. White meat for soup, sandwiches, casseroles. And, after many years of searching for recipes of what to do with the dark meat drumsticks, the simple answer is BBQ sauce.
That's a great deal! If you're a canning type person, turkey cans up well. I've always frozen up leftover roasted turkey but last year I bought a second bird on sale to try canning it and I think it tastes better than the frozen cooked turkey. Per Ball, it was roasted 2/3 done, deboned, and canned in pints. Hot pack with broth. Can send you details if you're interested.
Re: Disguising Price Increases
Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2023 5:37 pm
by bower
@Uncle_Feist the bottled salmon and moose that my grandmother made was so amazing good. A real delicacy and so tender. Probably the same recipe as yours with no pre-cooking.
Nice score!

(and kudos for knowing what to do with it.)
Re: Disguising Price Increases
Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2023 8:07 am
by worth1
I had someone years ago give me a whole boat load of deer meat ground up into chili meat.
They said is had been in the freezer for almost a year and probably wasn't any good but the dogs would eat it.
Yeah right.
I made chili with it.