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Re: Favorite (for taste) red OP medium or large round, oblate, or beefsteak tomato

Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2021 7:54 pm
by Sue_CT
Box Car Willie is a favorite of mine, for production, reliability and taste. A solid performer for me.

Re: Favorite (for taste) red OP medium or large round, oblate, or beefsteak tomato

Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2021 8:25 pm
by Shule
[mention]LK2020[/mention]
Which Big Beef do you mean (the F1 hybrid, Knapp's OP version, TomatoFest's OP version, or another OP version)?

Re: Favorite (for taste) red OP medium or large round, oblate, or beefsteak tomato

Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2021 8:29 pm
by Shule
Here's the tally so far.

Favorable mentions (on-topic):

4 Neves Azorean Red
4 Akers West Virginia
3 Thessaloniki
3 George Detsikas Italian Red
2 Linda's Faux
2 Cuostralee
2 Costoluto Genovese
2 Chapman
1 Wisconsin 55
1 Wes
1 The tomato MissS's Grandpa grew
1 Red Bulgarian
1 Red Brandywine PL
1 Queen of the Sea
1 Old Brooks
1 Nepal
1 Mr Bruno
1 Milkas
1 Marion
1 Italian Heirloom
1 Garrote bicolour Aracenes, Spanish heirloom red beefsteak
1 Bychiy Lob
1 Brutus
1 Box Car Willie
1 Bacon Lettuce and This

Favorable mentions (possibly on-topic; I plan to edit this when I figure it out):
1 Bulgarskoye Chudo (if it's red)

Re: Favorite (for taste) red OP medium or large round, oblate, or beefsteak tomato

Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2021 9:18 pm
by Ginger2778
IIRC George Detsikas was also a blunt heart.

Re: Favorite (for taste) red OP medium or large round, oblate, or beefsteak tomato

Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2021 11:48 pm
by Shule
[mention]Ginger2778[/mention]
That's interesting. Are blunt hearts often mistaken for other shapes? I thought mine was a beefsteak, but it did have a rather unusual and impressive shape the first year I grew it (I think the second year it just looked like a regular beefsteak).

I think I'm going to edit the scope of this thread to include oxhearts that people are known to mistake for round, oblate, or beefsteak. So, perhaps that includes at least blunt oxhearts and giant oxhearts that get squished because they're so big. (But, if you know they're oxhearts, or blunt oxhearts, please say so, as I intend to make notes by those.) I'm pretty sure that includes Wes, too, now that I'm looking at it--and since it can have irregular shapes. So, I added it to the tally.

Re: Favorite (for taste) red OP medium or large round, oblate, or beefsteak tomato

Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2021 11:55 pm
by Shule
[mention]Ginger2778[/mention]
Tatiana's says George Detsikas Italian Red is both an oxheart and a beefsteak! :) So, I guess everyone's right.

Re: Favorite (for taste) red OP medium or large round, oblate, or beefsteak tomato

Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2021 8:57 am
by rxkeith
if oxhearts are included, then consider sylvan guame.
it is a big tomato with big taste, a favorite of mine, but just
not the best suited for my climate. it isn't highly productive
at least for me, but the taste is right up there with the best of them.
your mileage may vary.


keith

Re: Favorite (for taste) red OP medium or large round, oblate, or beefsteak tomato

Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2021 9:03 am
by LK2020
Shule wrote: Thu Jun 24, 2021 8:25 pm @LK2020
Which Big Beef do you mean (the F1 hybrid, Knapp's OP version, TomatoFest's OP version, or another OP version)?
Big Beef F1 hybrid from Johnny's Seeds - someone gave them to me, I'd read some raves about it online, so I tried it and liked it.

Re: Favorite (for taste) red OP medium or large round, oblate, or beefsteak tomato

Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2021 1:10 pm
by Sue_CT
Wes is a really good tomato. I enjoy that one, planted it again this year. Not on my must grow every year list but one I sub in intermittently as space permits.

Re: Favorite (for taste) red OP medium or large round, oblate, or beefsteak tomato

Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2021 1:42 pm
by Tormahto
Shule wrote: Thu Jun 24, 2021 11:48 pm @Ginger2778
That's interesting. Are blunt hearts often mistaken for other shapes? I thought mine was a beefsteak, but it did have a rather unusual and impressive shape the first year I grew it (I think the second year it just looked like a regular beefsteak).

I think I'm going to edit the scope of this thread to include oxhearts that people are known to mistake for round, oblate, or beefsteak. So, perhaps that includes at least blunt oxhearts and giant oxhearts that get squished because they're so big. (But, if you know they're oxhearts, or blunt oxhearts, please say so, as I intend to make notes by those.) I'm pretty sure that includes Wes, too, now that I'm looking at it--and since it can have irregular shapes. So, I added it to the tally.
Fusion Power once mentioned something about hearts having an "elongated gene", but he didn't go into detail.

My own observations (strictly my own) are that there are two types of "blunt hearts".

One is where most of the fruit on the plant are blunt hearts, with the rare exception of perhaps a fused-blossom, cat-faced, or other abnormally shaped fruit.

The other is where if the fruit has a perfect blossom scar of just a small dot, the fruit are mostly blunt heart shaped. And, if there is a blossom scar other than that small pin point, the fruit are all beefsteaks. While I don't consider this type a heart variety, many do.

Re: Favorite (for taste) red OP medium or large round, oblate, or beefsteak tomato

Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2021 1:45 pm
by Tormahto
rxkeith wrote: Fri Jun 25, 2021 8:57 am if oxhearts are included, then consider sylvan guame.
it is a big tomato with big taste, a favorite of mine, but just
not the best suited for my climate. it isn't highly productive
at least for me, but the taste is right up there with the best of them.
your mileage may vary.


keith
I ran into a ditch with Sylvan Guame. A wrong type, that produced small plum shaped fruit with no flavor other than being sweet.

Re: Favorite (for taste) red OP medium or large round, oblate, or beefsteak tomato

Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2021 1:49 pm
by Tormahto
I don't recommend starting a thread on favorite (for taste) pinks. This site may not have enough bandwidth.

Re: Favorite (for taste) red OP medium or large round, oblate, or beefsteak tomato

Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2021 3:01 pm
by rxkeith
gary,

my seeds produced a big red heart or oxheart tomato.
not sure how old the seeds are, but i can send you some if i can find them
in my bag o seeds


keith

Re: Favorite (for taste) red OP medium or large round, oblate, or beefsteak tomato

Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2021 6:30 pm
by MissS
Tormato wrote: Fri Jun 25, 2021 1:49 pm I don't recommend starting a thread on favorite (for taste) pinks. This site may not have enough bandwidth.
No worries there. We are still young so we have plenty! :D

Re: Favorite (for taste) red OP medium or large round, oblate, or beefsteak tomato

Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2021 7:12 pm
by Shule
rxkeith wrote: Fri Jun 25, 2021 8:57 am if oxhearts are included, then consider sylvan guame.
it is a big tomato with big taste, a favorite of mine, but just
not the best suited for my climate. it isn't highly productive
at least for me, but the taste is right up there with the best of them.
your mileage may vary.


keith
It's actually already on the list! 😁 Good to know it's an oxheart. Well, the one on the list is spelled Sylvan Gaume. I'd guess they're the same, but I'm not sure.

Re: Favorite (for taste) red OP medium or large round, oblate, or beefsteak tomato

Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2021 9:17 pm
by rxkeith
i prolly just wasn't paying attention.


keith

Re: Favorite (for taste) red OP medium or large round, oblate, or beefsteak tomato

Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2021 11:06 am
by sjamesNorway
Sakharnyi Pudovichok ("sugary pounder") are fairly early medium to large red beefsteaks on a compact indeterminate plant which Tatiana describes as "simply wonderful". I think they have delicious balanced taste. They do well outside in cool summers here, and didn't like the heat in my greenhouse. (note: the seeds take longer than most to germinate.)

Steve

Re: Favorite (for taste) red OP medium or large round, oblate, or beefsteak tomato

Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2021 6:34 pm
by LK2020
I thought of another good one if you are including red hearts: EM Champion. I've grown it a couple times (bought the seeds through Ebay from a Russian woman) - grows vigorously, productive, early, very tasty. I've grown it in 5 gallon containers, so I imagine it would do even (a lot) better in the ground.

Re: Favorite (for taste) red OP medium or large round, oblate, or beefsteak tomato

Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2021 9:18 pm
by Ginger2778
sjamesNorway wrote: Sat Jun 26, 2021 11:06 am Sakharnyi Pudovichok ("sugary pounder") are fairly early medium to large red beefsteaks on a compact indeterminate plant which Tatiana describes as "simply wonderful". I think they have delicious balanced taste. They do well outside in cool summers here, and didn't like the heat in my greenhouse. (note: the seeds take longer than most to germinate.)

Steve
Those are a great choice. This year I grew a new pink heart that was huge(wonderful) called Pudovic.

Re: Favorite (for taste) red OP medium or large round, oblate, or beefsteak tomato

Posted: Tue Jun 29, 2021 10:59 am
by Tormahto
MissS wrote: Fri Jun 25, 2021 6:30 pm
Tormato wrote: Fri Jun 25, 2021 1:49 pm I don't recommend starting a thread on favorite (for taste) pinks. This site may not have enough bandwidth.
No worries there. We are still young so we have plenty! :D
You realize, of course, I'm just throwing that statement out there, as I don't even know what bandwidth is. :oops: