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Re: Disguising Price Increases

Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2023 7:36 pm
by Tormahto
Sue_CT wrote: Thu Apr 13, 2023 6:03 pm Yes, Worth, I have heard of using vodka in pastry, very cold vodka. Supposed to make it more flaky, but I have never tried it.
Vodka has a tendency to make the cook flaky.

Re: Disguising Price Increases

Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2023 7:44 pm
by worth1
So I wasn't losing my mind.

Re: Disguising Price Increases

Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2023 7:52 pm
by Sue_CT
Well now, Worth, I might not go that far... Lets just say, if you are losin your mind, this is not proof of it. :lol:

Re: Disguising Price Increases

Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2023 8:00 pm
by Tormahto
Sue_CT wrote: Thu Apr 13, 2023 7:52 pm Well now, Worth, I might not go that far... Lets just say, if you are losin your mind, this is not proof of it. :lol:
Oh, I think there is about 80 proof that he might be losing it. ;)

Re: Disguising Price Increases

Posted: Fri Apr 14, 2023 4:24 am
by worth1
I can't remember the last time I even bought vodka.
It has to have been 10 years or more ago.

Re: Disguising Price Increases

Posted: Fri Apr 14, 2023 5:47 am
by Tormahto
worth1 wrote: Fri Apr 14, 2023 4:24 am I can't remember the last time I even bought vodka.
It has to have been 10 years or more ago.
The key words being 'can't remember'?

Re: Disguising Price Increases

Posted: Fri Apr 14, 2023 5:58 am
by karstopography
Sobieski is a Polish Vodka that is made from 100% Polish Rye and a great value. Vodka varies quite a bit on flavor, mouth feel, aroma, but Sobieski vodka has a top shelf taste at a reasonable price. Sobieski tastes quite a bit different than Tito’s, which is corn based.

The source grain, potatoes, grapes, etc. that was used influences the flavor, so do the stills, then the heads and tails cuts made, and finally there’s the water to proof it all down. Rye based vodka in general has a spice note, wheat based vodka like Ketel One has a toasty or bready note, Corn based has a sweetness. Some are more viscous and soft on the tongue and others more mineral like and thin.

Re: Disguising Price Increases

Posted: Fri Apr 14, 2023 6:22 am
by Tormahto
Locally, there is the V One vodka company, supposedly extreme high quality, due to being made entirely from 100% spelt. Made in Poland and imported, how can even the company owner know what goes into it?

Also, we have White Lion Brewery, started up about a decade ago with no brewery, all of it made by others. I hear they actually may now have their own brewery.

At least there are actually real micro-breweries in the area. But, just like much of the country, that market appears to be over-saturated. The ones that are currently surviving, have a tasting/dining room on location, and host musical entertainment events during the nice weather time of year.

Re: Disguising Price Increases

Posted: Fri Apr 14, 2023 6:28 am
by karstopography
Tormato wrote: Fri Apr 14, 2023 6:22 am Made in Poland and imported, how can even the company owner know what goes into it?
I don’t understand this comment.

Re: Disguising Price Increases

Posted: Fri Apr 14, 2023 6:45 am
by Tormahto
karstopography wrote: Fri Apr 14, 2023 6:28 am
Tormato wrote: Fri Apr 14, 2023 6:22 am Made in Poland and imported, how can even the company owner know what goes into it?
I don’t understand this comment.
The owner lives here, and probably visits the distillery once a year, or less. Unless the product is of such superb quality, that cutting it with cheaper to produce vodka can be tasted, how would anyone know what really goes into it?

On a side note, I've been researching headphones for about a week, before deciding on what to get. The brand that I picked out, I just heard that counterfeits are being sold, and it seems to have started about 2 weeks ago. Perfect timing. So far, it's a different model in the brand lineup, that is being counterfeited.

Re: Disguising Price Increases

Posted: Fri Apr 14, 2023 7:04 am
by karstopography
Tormato wrote: Fri Apr 14, 2023 6:45 am
karstopography wrote: Fri Apr 14, 2023 6:28 am
Tormato wrote: Fri Apr 14, 2023 6:22 am Made in Poland and imported, how can even the company owner know what goes into it?
I don’t understand this comment.
The owner lives here, and probably visits the distillery once a year, or less. Unless the product is of such superb quality, that cutting it with cheaper to produce vodka can be tasted, how would anyone know what really goes into it?

On a side note, I've been researching headphones for about a week, before deciding on what to get. The brand that I picked out, I just heard that counterfeits are being sold, and it seems to have started about 2 weeks ago. Perfect timing. So far, it's a different model in the brand lineup, that is being counterfeited.
Marie Brizard Wine & Spirits HQ in France owns the Sobieski brand, Gautier cognac, along with others. One good thing about these spirits is that the distillation, proofing, all of the processes are repeatable. So a bottle of Jack Daniels Tennessee Whiskey or Weller 12 year old Bourbon or Tito’s Vodka or Sobieski Vodka tastes, good or bad, essentially the same bottle after bottle, year after year.

Re: Disguising Price Increases

Posted: Fri Apr 14, 2023 11:26 am
by worth1
I was going to make a three meat meatball but not with ground lamb at $10.00 a pound.
They disguised the price increase by not putting the price on it.
I had to look it up on line.

Re: Disguising Price Increases

Posted: Fri Apr 14, 2023 12:51 pm
by Sue_CT
You could subsitute ground veal. I like a beef, pork, veal mix myself. Not really a fan of lamb though so I am not a good judge of meatballs with Lamb.

Re: Disguising Price Increases

Posted: Fri Apr 14, 2023 1:55 pm
by worth1
Sue_CT wrote: Fri Apr 14, 2023 12:51 pm You could subsitute ground veal. I like a beef, pork, veal mix myself. Not really a fan of lamb though so I am not a good judge of meatballs with Lamb.
That's even more expensive.
Lamb adds another layer of flavor that veal doesn't have.
The beef and pork calm the lamb down.
I actually like lamb and mutton cooked over a hot bed of coals with salt black pepper and cumin.

Re: Disguising Price Increases

Posted: Fri Apr 14, 2023 2:08 pm
by Tormahto
Somewhere around here, I think that I still have a book on various meatball recipes from around the world. Online, most recipes use standard frozen meatballs, and just change up the sauce and other ingredients. That simply won't do. It would be like making a Swedish meatball meal with Italian meatballs, or vice versa. And, I know a few people who have mistakenly done that, with an unmarked bag of meatballs from their freezer. One friend raves about meatballs with grape jelly :shock: in the recipe, which I'll have to research.

Slowly cleaning a few boxes of various items around the house the past couple of days, as I'm under the weather and it's 90 degrees outside. I haven't found that book, but I KNEW that I had some asparagus seeds saved from last year. The red berries are kind of mummified. Also, I'm finally getting around to removing dried corn kernels from their ears.

Re: Disguising Price Increases

Posted: Fri Apr 14, 2023 2:50 pm
by worth1
They had a generic SYSCO brand frozen meatball they used in Prudhoe Bay Alaska.
Pretty much flavorless rubber balls made from god only knows what.
One place made an uncut canned stringy salty spinach soup and added the meatballs.
God awful concoction.

Re: Disguising Price Increases

Posted: Fri Apr 14, 2023 3:33 pm
by Danny
Ground lamb here is at 5 per pound, pretty reasonable. Have a recipe that uses ground lamb stuffed into apples and baked that is pretty good. The sweetness of the apple with the flavor of the lamb works well.

Tormato, when did asparagus berries get ears?!! :P

Dawg, would like that recipe please. If I remember to plan ahead, dicing or grating the butter and lard very finely and freezing it spread out the night before making pie crusts helps to make a very flaky crust. My old hands are pretty warm for pastry making, so freezing the butter and lard helps it not become a smear in the flour. Used to put my hands in ice water to cool them off, but it is painful to do that anymore.

Re: Disguising Price Increases

Posted: Fri Apr 14, 2023 5:25 pm
by GoDawgs
@Danny , I've posted the pie crust recipe in the Recipe section. :)

Re: Disguising Price Increases

Posted: Fri Apr 14, 2023 10:45 pm
by Danny
Thanks, GoDawgs

Re: Disguising Price Increases

Posted: Sat Apr 15, 2023 6:28 am
by Tormahto
worth1 wrote: Fri Apr 14, 2023 1:55 pm
Sue_CT wrote: Fri Apr 14, 2023 12:51 pm You could subsitute ground veal. I like a beef, pork, veal mix myself. Not really a fan of lamb though so I am not a good judge of meatballs with Lamb.
That's even more expensive.
Lamb adds another layer of flavor that veal doesn't have.
The beef and pork calm the lamb down.
I actually like lamb and mutton cooked over a hot bed of coals with salt black pepper and cumin.