Out of necessity at home I'll be growing only container slicer tomatoes ( except for the trifecta hybrid orange cherries in concrete wire cages near the door) due to losing my perimeter growing space to a much needed fence replacement mid summer.

Last summer I picked up a few extra hybrids shared by the designated tomato grower at the master gardener donation garden located very near my house. I grew Mountain Magic, Mountain Merit, Mountain Rouge , and an OP in a 4 X 4 raised bed (declined Celebrity and decided too late to snag Early Girl). The hybrids behaved and tasted as expected. Prolific, looked uniform and tasted like the grocery, shrugged off disease till the very end, though ripened very late in extreme heat. So late that I still have a full box of solid non mealy red tomatoes in my garage.

I would grow the hybrids again if they were offered to me. It is like an insurance policy for different weather conditions if you don't have the space to leverage your OP's in areas where weather is unstable.

It's far too early for me to decide what to grow out in the country. Spoiled by the carefree growing of hybrids without constant pruning of bad leaves, but seduced my the jungle of unique OP's each with a story and full of surprises. The spring weather forecast also has a big influence on what and when I start seeds. Either way, Bulgarian Triumph is a must!

-Lisa

Toomanymatoes wrote: ↑Mon Dec 20, 2021 10:36 pm Still undecided which varieties I am growing. All will be new to me.

9 dwarf project varieties
Not sure which ones yet.

7 determinates - 6 pink/red and 1 purple
Top Candidates:

1. Appetitnyi
2. Black Bear
3. Bradley
4. Bychiyu Lob
5. EM Champion
6. Korolevskiy Podarok
7. Pink Elephant [Rozovyj Slon?]

4 cherries - 1 red, 1 pink, 1 orange, 1 black (or green or white)
Top candidates:

1. Der Kleine Doctor
2. Fruit Punch
3. Maglia Rosa
4. Sungold
5. Verde Claro
6. Snow White

4 small slicers or paste
Top candidates:

1. Amish Paste
2. Heidi
3. Orange Banana
4. San Marzano Lampadina 2
5. Porter
6. Bloody Butcher
7. Bulgarian Triumph

10 oxhearts - pink, red, 1 bicolor or orange, 1 brown/black
Top candidates:

1. Anna Russian
2. Brad's Black Heart
3. Canadian Heart
4. Curtis Cheek
5. Eugenia
6. Everett's Rusty Oxheart
7. Fish Lake Oxheart
8. Fresa
9. Joe's Pink Oxheart
10. Mayo's Delight
11. Nicky Crain
12. Taiga
13. Wes

10 beefsteaks - pink, red, 1 green or yellow, 1 bicolor, 2 purple/black

Top Candidates so far:

1. Aker's West Virginia
2. Ananas Noire
3. Aunt Ginny's Purple
4. Aussie
5. Bill Bean Select
6. Brandywine From Croatia
7. Caspian Pink
8. Crynkovic Yugoslavian
9. Daniel Burson
10. Earl's Faux
11. Gary'O Senna
12. German Johnson
13. German Queen
14. Malachite Box
15. Nevez Azorean Red
16. Orange Crush
17. Orange Minsk
18. Polish
19. Pomodoro Cuore Antico di Acqui Terme
20. Pruden's Purple
21. Virginia Sweets

Waiting on the Tormato Tornado to finalize.....not that I need more to choose from.

Wish I had more room........

I'm under the assumption that the above list is what you already have, and I don't need to send any of them?

Tormato wrote: ↑Tue Dec 21, 2021 12:00 pm

Toomanymatoes wrote: ↑Mon Dec 20, 2021 10:36 pm Still undecided which varieties I am growing. All will be new to me.

9 dwarf project varieties
Not sure which ones yet.

7 determinates - 6 pink/red and 1 purple
Top Candidates:

1. Appetitnyi
2. Black Bear
3. Bradley
4. Bychiyu Lob
5. EM Champion
6. Korolevskiy Podarok
7. Pink Elephant [Rozovyj Slon?]

4 cherries - 1 red, 1 pink, 1 orange, 1 black (or green or white)
Top candidates:

1. Der Kleine Doctor
2. Fruit Punch
3. Maglia Rosa
4. Sungold
5. Verde Claro
6. Snow White

4 small slicers or paste
Top candidates:

1. Amish Paste
2. Heidi
3. Orange Banana
4. San Marzano Lampadina 2
5. Porter
6. Bloody Butcher
7. Bulgarian Triumph

10 oxhearts - pink, red, 1 bicolor or orange, 1 brown/black
Top candidates:

1. Anna Russian
2. Brad's Black Heart
3. Canadian Heart
4. Curtis Cheek
5. Eugenia
6. Everett's Rusty Oxheart
7. Fish Lake Oxheart
8. Fresa
9. Joe's Pink Oxheart
10. Mayo's Delight
11. Nicky Crain
12. Taiga
13. Wes

10 beefsteaks - pink, red, 1 green or yellow, 1 bicolor, 2 purple/black

Top Candidates so far:

1. Aker's West Virginia
2. Ananas Noire
3. Aunt Ginny's Purple
4. Aussie
5. Bill Bean Select
6. Brandywine From Croatia
7. Caspian Pink
8. Crynkovic Yugoslavian
9. Daniel Burson
10. Earl's Faux
11. Gary'O Senna
12. German Johnson
13. German Queen
14. Malachite Box
15. Nevez Azorean Red
16. Orange Crush
17. Orange Minsk
18. Polish
19. Pomodoro Cuore Antico di Acqui Terme
20. Pruden's Purple
21. Virginia Sweets

Waiting on the Tormato Tornado to finalize.....not that I need more to choose from.

Wish I had more room........

I'm under the assumption that the above list is what you already have, and I don't need to send any of them?

Correct. However, I do not care if I get something I already have. I do no want to create extra work for you. If you are concerned about seeds with limited supply to share you can exclude me if it is easier, otherwise I would be happy to let you know if it is something that I already have.

Planted moments ago.
From left to right
Amish Paste
Gregori’s Altai
Big Beef
Giant Syrian
Black Krim
Mortgage Lifter
Great White Blues
Pineapple
Dragon’s Eye
Persimmon
Ozark Pink
Costoluto Genovse
Santiago
Japanese Black Trifele
Texas Star
Fishlake Oxheart
Hoy
1884
Kellogg’s Breakfast

Some will be traded for others my friend is doing. He planted his yesterday. I want his Amana Orange since he did well with those. He had very good success with Brandywine so I want those too.

Might pick up a few from the feed store should something look good there come February.

It’s a plan that got into motion today. Weather is super mild so they will remain outside until it cools off. Forecast is for warm weather throughout the remainder of 2021.

I have no idea yet. It will depend on what the MMMM Seed Santa sends.

There's room for 21-25 varieties and a few of those will be returnees from last year like SOTW and German Johnson.

Due to limited tomato space in my garden by the house, I previously said only:
Rocky (paste)
Blue Beech (paste)
Anna Russian
Moskvich
Azoychka

My husband suggested I grow some things in the field where we grow other things so I just ordered some oxhearts and another slicer:
Brad's Black Heart
Reif Red Heart
True Colours - I'm really excited about tasting this one after reading the descriptions!
Midnight Sun
Orange Russian 117
Kosovo
Daniel Burson

Oh, and I'm doing a local trade for:
Black Sea Man

Labradors wrote: ↑Mon Sep 20, 2021 7:41 am Rossomendblot how assertive were you thinking? I love Orange Strawberry and Little Lucky. If you like tomatoes on the more acidic side, I can recommend Moonglow. Too acidic for me unfortunately as it was prolific with perfect orange orbs, high in tetra-cis-lycopene. For reference, I really like Red Lithium and Pruden's Purple.

Linda

While my "want to grow some day" list is already too long, I love threads like this. Linda's response is the perfect, off-the-cuff reply that likely doesn't come out elsewhere and gives me a couple varieties to add to my list.

Reading through this thread I realize I'm a bit of a weird one. My 2022 list was more or less set when I was whittling down my 2021 list. So the ones that get cut for 2022 are going onto 2023 candidate list, which will be too long by 5-15 tomato varieties .

And more from Gary!

Tormato wrote: ↑Tue Oct 05, 2021 1:44 pm All of the others I really like, with SOTW as my second all-time favorite, and Dester in the top 10, out of 1,500+ varieties trialed.

Happy list building all!

I've been down sizing every year as I get another year older. Six years ago I had 100+ plants and this year I'll have only 30.

Alma's Century Pink
Big Beef
Carolina Dusk
Fat Frog
Grandma Oliver Chocolate
Groovy Tunes
Hilltop
Iva's Red Berry
Jafor
JD's Special C Tex
Jeannine's Heart
Joe's Pink Oxheart
Klara
Maggie Mater
Old Brooks
Sweet Sister Patty
Sweet Sister Sunny
Super Italian Paste
Terhune
Tsindao
Winter Grappoli


Plus seven as yet unnamed crosses

Since some of my seeds have some age on them I'll also start these as back ups:
RED
Cheste
Guido
Texwine
DARK
Cherokee Purple Heart
Charbonnière du Berry.
PINK
Grandpa Charlie
Greenbush Italian

So far, after pondering all those MMMM seeds I've come up with a tentative grow list, subject to change.

Returning from last year are:

Bella Rosa
Rebel Yell
Purple Russian
Rio Grande (Pickles likes it but I might switch this one out)
Creole Original
German Johnson
Homestead
Stump of the World.

New ones include a mix of dwarfs , hearts, beefstakes, some pastes, a couple of cherries and the memorial grow out..

Honey Drop
Gardener's Sweetheart
Ernie's Plump
Pomodoro cuore Anicoco de Acqui Terme
Fish Lake Oxheart
Wisconsin 55
Sleeping Lady (dwarf)
Sweet Scarlet (dwarf)
Adelaide Festival (dwarf)
Grandee (dwarf)
Uluru Ochre (dwarf)
Kosovo
Brandywine (Sudduth Strain)
Amana Orange
Costoluto Genovese
Roselle Crimson (dwarf)
Roselle Purple (dwarf)
Aunt Ginny's Purple
Estler's Mortgage Lifter

That's all I have room for! Ten will be grown up here next to the house, eleven down in the garden and six in what I call the Tomato Annex, an area of the yard I dug up last year to accommodate an extra four tomatoes. I'm squeezing two more in there this year. LOL!

There's still fall to consider for trying a few more newbies but I'm not worrying about that right now. Still have to select more micros for the front porch growing though.

Well, I'm not sure exactly what I'm going to grow, I think I am going to grow one or two less tomatoes and one or two more peppers. But I'm going to replace one Sungold and one Honeycomb Hybrid with Sunorange, and I'm going to try the new Artisan Lucky Bee.

I'm also giving up on trying to grow one "early" plant (last year it was Quedlinburger Fruhe Liebe, year before it was 42-Day) because they are usually terrible and wind up not being any earlier than some pretty early standby's like Sungold or Maglia Rosa, although I have to give the Quedlinburger credit for being highly productive.

Well I’m changing my entire list !! I have decided to grow all determinate tomatoes and only 1 variety 25 plants. Doing a test on production plus using 3 different kinds of fertilizer in a greenhouse house. Not messing around with the big plants this year. So I’m gonna be growing

Red deuce tomatoes in greenhouse

Goliath bush indoors for my winter tomato project

Mine has changed, it always does by the next season. I have recovered from the brutal summer of 2021 and I'm optimistic again.

I have 24 spaces, all in raised beds, I've given up on trying to grow in my crummy dirt. I'll plant 2 of some, 1 of others. Trying some new varieties.

New:
Taiga
Aunt Ginny's Purple
Eva Purple Ball
Dester
Amish Paste
Amber Keyes
Neves Azorean Red
Green Gables

Returning:
Midnight Sun
Stump of the World
Girl Girl's Weird Thing
KBX
Anna's Multiflora
KARMA Purple Multiflora
KARMA Peach
Old German

Has anyone ever tried the Goliath bush or the siletz?? I got both of those started for my indoor winter tomatoes

If you like little bags of gel and seeds, in abundance, Siletz is for you.

Thank you just trying to find the right tomato:) it is not easy

Sophie's Choice is a good determinate. Very stocky plant and produced a lot of 8 to 10oz. fruit. However, I think it was bred for cooler environments so not sure how well it would fare if you are in a hot/humid area.

AKgardener wrote: ↑Sun Jan 16, 2022 12:15 pm Has anyone ever tried the Goliath bush or the siletz?? I got both of those started for my indoor winter tomatoes

I've tried them both, once each.

Bush Goliath F1 is very determinate (all the fruits ripen at once; the plant is small; the harvest on our plant wasn't huge); I don't recommend it for my climate, but in a place with more temperate late springs and early summers, it might be good. I don't know how it does indoors in winter. The taste was pretty standard for a red, but not acidic (about like a Roma, but more uniformly red). My fruits didn't get ripe until about October 10th (which I believe is unusual for the variety, but if I were to grow it again, I'd be sure to give it special nutrients). The fruits were between salad and medium-sized (or like large salad tomatoes). They weren't extremely meaty, but not the polar opposite, either. They were somewhat softer than Roma tomatoes, if I remember right. I think we got about 6 to 12 fruits.

My Siletz plant got smothered, because I grew other tomatoes too close to it. It got maybe a couple fruit that I was looking forward to, but I think they got lost by the time I went to pick them.

Siletz is parthenocarpic, which should be an advantage indoors.

Thank you for all that replied I will definitely see how it all turns out I live in alaska so weather in on and off

AKgardener wrote: ↑Mon Jan 17, 2022 7:16 pm Thank you just trying to find the right tomato:) it is not easy

What are you looking for in the "right" tomato?

Something That grows would be nice ! Not chasing the biggest tomatoes anymore so I’m going with determinant tomatoes that arnt to sweet but produce well I’m
Still trying to figure it out so far so good with these guys