OhioGardener, I had totally forgotten about the 1993 coup attempt .. see how we get old?! I had mixed the two coups in my mind, how shameful
That was how Yeltsin consolidated power... and held it through the 90's ... passing the baton to his protege Putin, now the 'eternal president' more or less...
Agree that tomatoes are interesting... maybe not more than politics, but less controversial..!
Re: MMMM variety questions & maybe answers
Posted: Sun Jan 31, 2021 2:49 pm
by habitat-gardener
I assume that the seeds in the swap labeled "Lady Fingers 2019" are the indeterminate plums, not the determinate OP red plums or the F1 cherries!
Lady Fingers https://nikitovka.com/en/tomato/1184-to ... 00140.html
Early (100-110 days) Russian heirloom variety. Indeterminate Tomato plant with unlimited grow. Unique elongated, red tomatoes, with a very good taste.
habitat-gardener wrote: ↑Sun Jan 31, 2021 2:49 pm
I assume that the seeds in the swap labeled "Lady Fingers 2019" are the indeterminate plums, not the determinate OP red plums or the F1 cherries!
Lady Fingers https://nikitovka.com/en/tomato/1184-to ... 00140.html
Early (100-110 days) Russian heirloom variety. Indeterminate Tomato plant with unlimited grow. Unique elongated, red tomatoes, with a very good taste.
If you have the open-pollinated Russian variety, Nikitovka has this variety listed on its Russian language page as "ДАМСКИЕ ПАЛЬЧИКИ" which is "Damskie Palchiki" or Lady Fingers. Some of their descriptions haven't always been accurate in my experience, so it's likely the same variety offered by Croatian Seeds. According to Russian sites, it's supposed to be determinate to about 60 cm producing small plums resistant to disease, cool weather and cracking and it's an early variety (~100 days from seed). It's also supposed to be an older Soviet variety that got patented and added to the state register in 2006. Here are some links with photos: http://sortoved.ru/tomat-pomidor/sort-t ... chiki.html http://profermu.com/ogorod/pomidory/sor ... chiki.html https://rusfermer.net/ogorod/plodovye-o ... chiki.html
Re: MMMM variety questions & maybe answers
Posted: Tue Feb 02, 2021 10:54 pm
by zendog
[mention]Tormato[/mention] Can you shed any light on the size/color/taste of Elbonian Hip Deep tomatoes? I'm trying to trim down my list and I plan to grow it, so thought maybe something else I have on the list can get cut if they have similar fruit to EHD. Thanks!
Re: MMMM variety questions & maybe answers
Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2021 3:05 pm
by HenriSportif
Does anyone have information on Sylvano's pole bean? I've had it a few years, grown it, sent it back in to the swap - would like any history / info. Thanks!
Re: MMMM variety questions & maybe answers
Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2021 12:21 pm
by root_grow
[mention]Nan6b[/mention] I so appreciate the extra information provided on your labels about the seeds you shared. It's a good idea I should keep in mind for next time! I received some Timpurii seeds and like trying new earlies - do you remember if they are determinate or indeterminate, or how tall do they get? Just trying to figure out where to put them.
Re: MMMM variety questions & maybe answers
Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2021 3:10 pm
by Tormahto
zendog wrote: ↑Tue Feb 02, 2021 10:54 pm
@Tormato Can you shed any light on the size/color/taste of Elbonian Hip Deep tomatoes? I'm trying to trim down my list and I plan to grow it, so thought maybe something else I have on the list can get cut if they have similar fruit to EHD. Thanks!
Size is to 12 ounces, many are boat-shaped beefsteaks. Flavor, to me is good, sweet and clean, not earthy like most blacks I've trialed (including Elbonian Mud Ball). It grows short for me, with low to medium production. Elbonian Mudslinger is the best black I've ever trialed, but a long way from stable (like me).
Re: MMMM variety questions & maybe answers
Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2021 3:15 pm
by Tormahto
HenriSportif wrote: ↑Wed Feb 03, 2021 3:05 pm
Does anyone have information on Sylvano's pole bean? I've had it a few years, grown it, sent it back in to the swap - would like any history / info. Thanks!
From lakelady (@T'ville) to me, grown for 100+ years in NJ, originally from Italy. A black-seeded, long, flat, green-podded romano type pole bean.
Re: MMMM variety questions & maybe answers
Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2021 9:32 am
by bjbebs
Just dumped the envelope. For all those that chipped in, thank you. To the main dude that made it happen, many thanks. So much fun on a super bowl morning.
Gary, is this your creation? PI 129129 '19. If it's top secret could you just give me color and size of fruit. I will find a spot for it regardless.
Re: MMMM variety questions & maybe answers
Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2021 11:09 am
by OhioGardener
bjbebs wrote: ↑Sun Feb 07, 2021 9:32 am
Just dumped the envelope. For all those that chipped in, thank you. To the main dude that made it happen, many thanks. So much fun on a super bowl morning.
Gary, is this your creation? PI 129129 '19. If it's top secret could you just give me color and size of fruit. I will find a spot for it regardless.
PI129129 was one that I sent in. I ordered and grew it as a curiosity from the Seed Saver's Exchange seedbank. When I researched it, I found it listed as a USDA accession that's been buried in history after apparently being part of an early agricultural collection by the Agricultural Experimental Station of Logan, Utah. The following is the description I've added to my SSE listing:
"If it were up to me to name this variety, it would be "Dulce Panameño." Described in the 1949 USDA inventory as a medium-size round red fruit collected from a market in Panama, May 10, 1938. When grown out, fruits were intensely red, cherry-sized, and quite sweet with a wonderful flavor. Moderately productive by today's standards. Indeterminate, regular leaf. Mid-season. Heat resistant."
You can find the original USDA reference on page 48 of the link below.
bjbebs wrote: ↑Sun Feb 07, 2021 9:32 am
Just dumped the envelope. For all those that chipped in, thank you. To the main dude that made it happen, many thanks. So much fun on a super bowl morning.
Gary, is this your creation? PI 129129 '19. If it's top secret could you just give me color and size of fruit. I will find a spot for it regardless.
PI129129 was one that I sent in. I ordered and grew it as a curiosity from the Seed Saver's Exchange seedbank. When I researched it, I found it listed as a USDA accession that's been buried in history after apparently being part of an early agricultural collection by the Agricultural Experimental Station of Logan, Utah. The following is the description I've added to my SSE listing:
"If it were up to me to name this variety, it would be "Dulce Panameño." Described in the 1949 USDA inventory as a medium-size round red fruit collected from a market in Panama, May 10, 1938. When grown out, fruits were intensely red, cherry-sized, and quite sweet with a wonderful flavor. Moderately productive by today's standards. Indeterminate, regular leaf. Mid-season. Heat resistant."
You can find the original USDA reference on page 48 of the link below.
I give my (unauthorized) approval for you naming it "Dulce Panemeno". Now to change the label on my last seed pack. And, one of these years I may be able to figure out how to get that squiggly thing over the n to show up.
Re: MMMM variety questions & maybe answers
Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2021 12:37 pm
by PhilaGardener
ñ. If you copy and paste it from someone who knew the secret key combination, it works!
Re: MMMM variety questions & maybe answers
Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2021 1:12 pm
by Rockoe10
You need ASCII Codes.
Turn on NumLock
Hold Alt
Type 164 on the NumPad
Release Alt
Re: MMMM variety questions & maybe answers
Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2021 1:55 pm
by Amateurinawe
[mention]Rockoe10[/mention] I think the pronunciation is easier.....
Re: MMMM variety questions & maybe answers
Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2021 1:58 pm
by Amateurinawe
[mention]Rockoe10[/mention] One can probably practice the pronunication here
Re: MMMM variety questions & maybe answers
Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2021 3:09 pm
by bjbebs
Dulce Panameño it is. Thanks Ohio.
Re: MMMM variety questions & maybe answers
Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2021 7:27 pm
by OhioGardener
Rockoe10 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 07, 2021 1:12 pm
You need ASCII Codes.
Turn on NumLock
Hold Alt
Type 164 on the NumPad
Release Alt
Or just toggle your smartphone keyboard to Spanish and you get the funky "n" key.
Re: MMMM variety questions & maybe answers
Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2021 10:39 pm
by Nan6b
[mention]root_grow[/mention], I think it produced for about a month and a half to two months, but quit early.
Re: MMMM variety questions & maybe answers
Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2021 1:02 pm
by Tormahto
PhilaGardener wrote: ↑Sun Feb 07, 2021 12:37 pm
ñ. If you copy and paste it from someone who knew the secret key combination, it works!
Ain't gonna happen. The only paste I know is flour and water. High tech for me is Elmer's.
Re: MMMM variety questions & maybe answers
Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2021 1:28 pm
by HenriSportif
You do alright, Tormato! You do enough to make a lot of people very happy and very busy, every year.
