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Red Lithium?

Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2021 11:03 am
by Pokemato
Hello,

I received seed labeled Red Lithium in the MMMM and it's growing beautifully and is one of the most productive plants in my garden. However, the first one I pulled was heart-shaped. I realize it might be a cross because it's neighbor is Rebel Starfighter Prime. So, this morning I went to look, to make sure I'd pulled it from the correct plant and hadn't just gotten mixed up. I confirmed it was from the plant Red Lithium and, it looks like I have lots of heart shaped fruit on that plant. Anyone growing this one? Should it be a heart or no?
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Re: Red Lithium?

Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2021 12:14 pm
by Labradors
It appears to be environmental, although others have written about Lithium Sunset throwing hearts. You can read more by Googling "Tomatoville Lithium Sunset".

Linda

Re: Red Lithium?

Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2021 8:43 pm
by zendog
I can't remember if I sent Red Lithium in to the MMMM or not so not sure if they are from me or someone else, but that is what mine looked like last year. I had gotten seeds from Marsha ([mention]Ginger2778[/mention]) in her very generous 2020 seed offer. She had recommended it to me as a good one to try and she was right.

It was productive and what you are showing was the shape/color I got last year. It is different than Lithium Sunset and I'm not really sure of the full background. I suspect it could still be unstable so I'd be curious if Marsha has some pictures of what she has grown. It was a great tasting tomato and I'm growing 2 plants this year. One is growing tomatoes like the ones in your picture and one looks more like a more solid colored beefsteak or maybe more of a very blunt heart, but I can't tell color of it for sure yet since none from that plant have ripened yet. I've eaten a couple of the striped heart ones so far this season that were great tasting like I remembered, and can't wait to see what the other plant produces when they're ripe.

Re: Red Lithium?

Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2021 9:42 pm
by Ginger2778
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Mine were blunt hearts if heart at all. Super productive great tasting pink striped fruits. I found this and named it, seeds were originally from a bag labeled Lithium Sunset, which is a striped bicolor. Fred Hempel (breeder of LS)was surprised to see red flesh, and we decided together to name it Red Lithium. I believe it to be stable, it has always grown same for me year after year. Probably the most productive tomato I have grown. And delicious!

Re: Red Lithium?

Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2021 12:32 am
by Gardadore
Last year my tomato buddy was given the task to grow both lithium Sunset and Red Lithium for comparison. I never got to taste them for a number of reasons. This year I am growing the Red Lithium and amazed at how many flowers and tomatoes it is setting. I noticed today that some look heart shaped and was surprised so this is a timely thread. They are really small yet so we’ll see. Mine were from Marsha and I’m really looking forward to tasting them! Will be a while till that happens.

Re: Red Lithium?

Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2021 9:33 am
by rossomendblot
Beautiful looking tomato!

Re: Red Lithium?

Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2021 9:40 am
by Labradors
This is a great tasting tomato. Productive too! I think everyone should try it :).

Linda

Re: Red Lithium?

Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2021 10:53 am
by Ginger2778
Pokemato wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 11:03 am Hello,

I received seed labeled Red Lithium in the MMMM and it's growing beautifully and is one of the most productive plants in my garden. However, the first one I pulled was heart-shaped. I realize it might be a cross because it's neighbor is Rebel Starfighter Prime. So, this morning I went to look, to make sure I'd pulled it from the correct plant and hadn't just gotten mixed up. I confirmed it was from the plant Red Lithium and, it looks like I have lots of heart shaped fruit on that plant. Anyone growing this one? Should it be a heart or no?

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Mine are stable, but yours might be from a growout that got crossed last season. Mine weren't donated to the MMMM, so someone got seeds from me, grew it, then donated their saved seeds.

Re: Red Lithium?

Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2021 2:43 pm
by steve ok
Red Lithium was one of five varieties of seeds Marsha sent me in January of this year.
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Steve

Re: Red Lithium?

Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2021 2:56 pm
by Ginger2778
Ah so you all are getting heart shapes? Maybe I had cross! Mine had mild heart shaping, but only in some. Or it might elongate in the heat, I grow while we are cooling down, not in the heat. This is interesting.
Steve Ok, was the seed sent in January of 2020? I didn't do a seed offer this year.

Re: Red Lithium?

Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2021 5:11 pm
by Dawn
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Ok, so I read this thread yesterday, and was pretty sure my plant got killed by my dog or the crazy heat wave. So today, I was looking at the tomatoes I stuck in the raised beds in the side of the house and found these tomatoes. I knew there was a Rainbow Jazz Heart in that bed, figured it was this plant. Followed the plant to the tag, Red Lithium.

I was extremely hot for a while, 3 days above 110, it cooled down, but it cooled down to the high 90s/low 100s.

Re: Red Lithium?

Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2021 5:15 pm
by steve ok
[mention]Ginger2778[/mention] PM sent.

Re: Red Lithium?

Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2021 5:49 pm
by Ginger2778
Yep, undeniably a heart. Maybe it's not stable.

Re: Red Lithium?

Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2021 5:22 am
by Gardadore
Mine are now bigger and have the same heart shape as those above. I gave a plant to my sister-in-law and hers are also heart shaped. Believe they were from 2020 offer from Marsha. Sent to me as a “must have”! Since I love hearts can’t complain especially if they taste as good as the blunt ones. Can heat really cause such a difference? We have been hot and humid with short periods of cooling down.

Re: Red Lithium?

Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2021 6:13 am
by Ginger2778
Gardadore wrote: Thu Jul 15, 2021 5:22 am Mine are now bigger and have the same heart shape as those above. I gave a plant to my sister-in-law and hers are also heart shaped. Believe they were from 2020 offer from Marsha. Sent to me as a “must have”! Since I love hearts can’t complain especially if they taste as good as the blunt ones. Can heat really cause such a difference? We have been hot and humid with short periods of cooling down.
Heat wouldn't cause this very pointed true heart shape. Looks like a cross happened a while back.

Re: Red Lithium?

Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2021 9:38 am
by Gardadore
Marsha,
Do you think you have seeds left from your original blunt ones that would continue to produce them? It would be a shame for you to lose the variety you discovered!

Re: Red Lithium?

Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2021 12:42 pm
by Ginger2778
Gardadore wrote: Thu Jul 15, 2021 9:38 am Marsha,
Do you think you have seeds left from your original blunt ones that would continue to produce them? It would be a shame for you to lose the variety you discovered!
I'll look!

Re: Red Lithium?

Posted: Fri Jul 16, 2021 3:05 pm
by Tormahto
Dawn wrote: Mon Jul 12, 2021 5:11 pm IMG_20210712_145124521~2.jpg
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Ok, so I read this thread yesterday, and was pretty sure my plant got killed by my dog or the crazy heat wave. So today, I was looking at the tomatoes I stuck in the raised beds in the side of the house and found these tomatoes. I knew there was a Rainbow Jazz Heart in that bed, figured it was this plant. Followed the plant to the tag, Red Lithium.

I was extremely hot for a while, 3 days above 110, it cooled down, but it cooled down to the high 90s/low 100s.
Are you saving plenty of seeds from your extra elongated variation? ;) ;)

Re: Red Lithium?

Posted: Fri Jul 16, 2021 8:01 pm
by Dawn
Probably, but only if they taste good 😂
Tormato wrote: Fri Jul 16, 2021 3:05 pm
Are you saving plenty of seeds from your extra elongated variation? ;) ;)

Re: Red Lithium?

Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2021 4:56 pm
by Dawn
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We have first blush. Don't be alarmed by the size, it got hot early and violently 😂 this year, everything has been struggling. Stump of the World ripened at the same size (and was delicious).