Just wondering if anyone here knows anything about the origin of Black Beauty. [mention]Volvo[/mention] has mentioned to me in email that his daughter has one throw black shouldered chocolate fruit that are absolutely delicious, or perhaps green shouldered chocolate fruit that show up as black shouldered fruit.

From what I can dig up the seed was released in 2015 or earlier in the USA. Just wondering if anyone has heard of off type fruit or if we have a chance hybrid.

It was created by one of the leaders in tomato development.

https://wildboarfarms.com/product/black-beauty/

Thanks [mention]Rockoe10[/mention], sounds like Volvo definitely has a cross on his hands

[mention]Whwoz[/mention]
I grew Black Beauty in 2017, and it seemed true-to-type. I saved seeds, and grew them again either in 2018 or 2019. The fruits were much smaller and brown (maybe with some anthocyanin, still). They also split a lot. Both plants were prolific.

I figured it was a cross from my own garden. I'm growing it again from a new seed source, this year in similar conditions as the last time I grew it (so, we'll see what it's like; I could probably go check now; the only reason I haven't is that it's in a tomato jungle, and I'll have to find it).

[mention]Shule[/mention], I grew it last year and what I got sounds typical as per description, the majority of what [mention]Volvo[/mention] has growing between his place and his daughters likewise seem typical, but one is definitely different. From what he wrote in his email one appears to be a green shouldered chocolate overlaid with Antho and leaving the other in its wake. Plants are 8 feet tall. Let's see if I can add one of the photos he sent me.

Onya Whoz knew you were gunna upload the Photo i would have dressed up fer the shot lol , nah just joshin .
Daughter did offer me the second one she picked shortly afterwards but thought it too cruel to accept it due to its favourable flavour , did ferment seeds from the first and will head some down south with the next few i send as they arrive.
So confused as what to plantout next year though due to variety i grew this year which did tickle the tastebuds somewhat.
have some of Mcsee's "Greek Witnesses to plantout as well as the Mt Athos im waiting on as well as the Red and Black Truffle so might have to raid some of the daughters patch lol..

Always useful to have a second patch you can access easily Volvo. I used parents farm a bit that way, when one has 450 + varieties to select from it does get a bit like I need more ground....... Will make a spot on the heat pad for that new one when they arrive.

450+ varieties , Jazus Joseph n Mary mate thats a patch n a halfe on its own ..
Just waiting for another Variety of seed to dry and will send it along with the Black beuty cross. If it comes up Trumps like the one i cut into im sure it will be a permanent resident and keen to see what happens ey ??.

While we are on the topic of Black Beuty ill say i grew this Variety last year without thinking that it was a worthy variety of planting again until Whoz and a couple of others said that its sometimes best to plant saved seeds of grown fruit for two or three years in a row to get the benefit of that paticular Variety to get used to the soil it hosts.
So yes planted again this year as well s getting my daughter to grow them also
Planted two plants in my plot which did not grow to the size of my daughters plants not the quantity her plants produced.
Watered once maybe twice a week to get the plants up and running with plants showing folliar yellowing of leaves early on in the peace which i took to be a soil deficiency or maybe some early blight due to the winter moisture in the air especially come early mornings the dew that would be eveident on the leaves .
Fruit of one plant ripened quick and small without the flavour i would have liked so pulled that plant out and left the other as it had aprox ten fruit still awaiting ripening but left the watering to a very minimum .
Have taken yonks to ripen the fruit on this second plant with a close thought of pulling the plant out and making way for other planting , but left them to see what would transpire and glad i did so as two of the fruit i pulled off today had the flavour i look forward to with all Tomato plants.
Maybe the early start of a little warming up of the Season or the less watering or a combination of both but will plant Black Beuty again next year alongside the Black beauty cross mentioned above but cut back watering as well as add trace elements towards assisting with folliar ??..
Not a large Fruit as all may know but have the abillity to be a very tasty fruit ..

I grew BB this year. It was prolific but I get a weird,chemical/bitter taste. My husband doesn’t taste it and enjoys their flavor but I just can’t tolerate that off-taste.
They are beautiful ,prolific and seem to be quite disease/pest tolerant. They did split a little with the rains. Mine seemed true to type.
I picked up the same flavor from a black cherry that I grew,Indigo something,so I wonder if that’s in it’s pedigree. That variety was also prolific and disease/bug resistant.

I tasted my first BB yesterday. I enjoyed it. It wasn't like a traditional tomato, that's for sure. Tastier than store bought by a mile.

The tomato size fit in your palm, and honestly i think could have used another two days on the vine. Tough to judge ripeness the first time growing it