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Post: # 73132Unread post Tormato
Tue Jul 05, 2022 3:04 pm

This thread is for posting what participants WILL be sending in. If you might be sending some things in, but haven't yet harvested it, please mention that.

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Post: # 105680Unread post steve ok
Fri Sep 01, 2023 5:07 pm

I am sending in:
Bear Creek - Black
Indian Stripe - Black
Iva's Purple Rust - Black
Polaris - Black
Rosedale - Black
Blue Ridge Mountain - Pink
Brandy Boy OP - Pink
Clear Pink Early - Pink
Rozovyi Gigant - Pink
Vodoley - Pink
Mashenka - Red
Mat-Su Express - Red
Usbekistan - Red
Midnight Sun - Heart
True Colors - Heart
Premus - Determinate
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Post: # 105688Unread post WoodSprite
Fri Sep 01, 2023 10:18 pm

UPDATE January 27, 2024: I apologize but I've decided not to participate in the swap this year. I just don't feel up to it and don't need more seeds at the moment. However, if anything on my list is needed for the swap, I can send in just it/them and expect nothing in return.

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I plan to send these tomato varieties:

Dwarf:
Boronia
Tasmanian Chocolate

Black:
D.B. Cooper - This plant was diseased so not sharing seeds though I did collect some.
Margaret Curtain
Paul Robeson
(Plus 2 more varieties, possibly as Nifty Fifty or just normal. I'll message you Tormato.)

Pink (clear skin) though I thought this variety was supposed to be red (yellow skin):
Goose Creek

Paste:
Blue Beech
Cow's Tit
Rocky
Santa Maria - I forgot to collect seeds. It had very low productivity for me.
Shannon's

I sent these in 2022 and could send more '22-harvested seeds if needed.:
Azoychka
Black Cherry
Blue Beech
Cherokee Purple
Cow's Tit
Glacier
Jaune Flamme
Korichnevyy Rebristyy (Brown Ribbed)
Kosovo
Lindy's Little Krim
Midnight Sun
Matina
Mortgage Lifter (unknown strain)
Moskvich
Mr. Stripey
Opalka
Reif Red Heart
Rocky
San Remo / Pompeii
Speckled Roman
Striped German
True Colours

I'll edit as I find more things to send.
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Post: # 105690Unread post Stitchingmom
Sat Sep 02, 2023 12:22 am

I will be sending in:

Fat Frog
Atomic Sunset
Yellow Currant
Red Currant
Whippersnapper

I tried to grow Caspian Pink, as that was on the request list I received, but the seeds were a paste.
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Post: # 105693Unread post Docmom
Sat Sep 02, 2023 6:17 am

I have collected and dried:

Amish Paste
Ananas Noire
Anna Russian
Azoychka
Cherokee Purple
Green Zebra
Happy Jack
Johannisbeertomate
Nepal
Opalka
Paul Robeson
Peron's Sprayless
Pink Berkeley Tye-Dye
San Marzano

Flowers/Native Plants:

Purple Coneflower
Virginia Creeper

(As of 9/15, I have 314 individual packs of the various tomato seeds above, with an additional 17 bulk packs for all but the Nepal, that could be sent as well.)

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Post: # 105714Unread post wodehouse
Sat Sep 02, 2023 1:15 pm

I will be sending in:

Black:

Carbon (2022)
Gary’O Sena
Negro de Aritzkuren

Cherry:

Maglia Rosa

Determinate:
Sophie’s Choice

Dwarf:

Arctic Rose
Cherokee Tiger
Emerald Green
Fred’s Tie Dye
Kangaroo Paw Green
Loxton Lad
Orange Cream
Perfect Harmony
Purple Heart
Radinlee
Rosella Crimson
Rosella Purple
Sweet Scarlet
Wherokowhai
Wild Fred
Wild Spudleaf

Eastern European:
Crnkovic Yugoslavian
Dusya Krasnaya (also Determinate)
Kozula 24
Lida's Ukrainian (2022)
Marmelad Zeltyi (Yellow Marmalade)
Moravsky Div
Petrovich
Sakharnyi Zheltyi
Tsitrusovyy Sad (Citrus Garden)

Hot:
Peron (2022)

Italian etc.:
Burning Spear (2022)
Pisanello da Bruschetta (2022)

Pink:
Aunt Ginny’s Purple
Eva's Purple Ball (2022)
Rose de Berne
Shar Pei Pink (2022)
Stump of the World

Red:
Ailsa Craig (2022)
Aker's West Virginia (2022)
Bulgarian #7 (2022)
Bulgarian Triumph (2022)
Couilles de Taureau (2022)
Druzba (2022)
Kimberley
Neves Azorean Red (2022)

Striped:
Tigerella (2022)

Yellow, etc:
Benissoinante (2022)
Jaune Flamme (2022)
Lucky Cross (PL) (2022)
Thornburn’s Terra Cotta

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Beans:
Blue Marbot (Pole)
Meek's Running (Pole)
Rattlesnake (Pole)
Sunset Runner (Pole)
Triumphe de Farcy (Bush)

Cucumbers:
Dragon Suyo Cross F2
Green Light F2
Tsuyataro F2

Peppers:
Ajvarski
B.C. Aji
Buena Mulata
Corbaci
Fish
Holy Italian
Jupiter
Odessa Market
Pasillo Bajia

Summer Squash:
Odessa

This should be my final revised list...unless I find something else! :lol:
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Post: # 105723Unread post maxjohnson
Sat Sep 02, 2023 5:29 pm

Spencer and Queen Aliquippa. Recommended by Lucky Gardener on YouTube, so I'm really looking forward to them.

Sweet Cherriette. From Adaptive Seeds, currant tomato looks like its similar to Florida Everglade but more productive.

Clear Pink. Early determinate, supposedly.

I started these quite late in early August. First frost date could be mid-Oct, but given the unnatural warm season this year, and how quick they are taking off with the warm weather, I'm quite positive to get ripen fruits before the freeze come. I bagged the unopened blossoms with organza bag.

This is quite interesting how fast they grow in the middle of the season compared to when it's cooler. Starting next year I will start a second batch of tomato seedling in mid-July so I can have two seasons of tomatoes in one year.

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Post: # 105791Unread post Hornad
Sun Sep 03, 2023 8:04 pm

Tomatoes:
Amish Paste
Bloody Butcher
Bill Bean

Dry Beans
Black BeefBush (said to taste like beef)

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Post: # 105920Unread post Julianna
Wed Sep 06, 2023 2:53 pm

For sure:
Queen of the Night
Thornburn's yellow blush
Prairie Fire
Black Beauty

99% sure
Cherokee Purple
Berkeley Tie Dye
Pineapple
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Post: # 106019Unread post NYTomatoNewbie
Fri Sep 08, 2023 12:27 pm

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I grew a Fatima tomato plant and one of the tomatoes was 2 pounds. It looked like several tomatoes fused together. I saved seeds from the larger tomato. The rest of the tomatoes were the correct size, color and shape on the same plant.

When I send in these seeds, do they have to go under an experimental category? I don’t know if growing them out will produce a normal Fatima tomato or larger misshaped tomatoes. Please advise.

I assume there is a technical term for when multiple tomatoes fuse together, but I am not sure what the term is.
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Fri Sep 08, 2023 4:03 pm

NYTomatoNewbie wrote: Fri Sep 08, 2023 12:27 pm DC272AD3-665B-4177-A5D2-4AD33D3C8123.jpeg

I grew a Fatima tomato plant and one of the tomatoes was 2 pounds. It looked like several tomatoes fused together. I saved seeds from the larger tomato. The rest of the tomatoes were the correct size, color and shape on the same plant.

When I send in these seeds, do they have to go under an experimental category? I don’t know if growing them out will produce a normal Fatima tomato or larger misshaped tomatoes. Please advise.

I assume there is a technical term for when multiple tomatoes fuse together, but I am not sure what the term is.
No special listing requirements for it.

Perhaps an expert can chime in on whether continued selecting for fused blossomed fruit might produce more fused blossom fruit in the future. I would expect to get what your current plant is producing, unless there was cross pollinating going on.

One odd thing about fused blossom fruit is that one part can get cross pollinated, while another part may or may not get cross pollinated. Such an occurrence is very rare, though.

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Fri Sep 08, 2023 4:12 pm

Tormato wrote: Fri Sep 08, 2023 4:03 pm
NYTomatoNewbie wrote: Fri Sep 08, 2023 12:27 pm DC272AD3-665B-4177-A5D2-4AD33D3C8123.jpeg

I grew a Fatima tomato plant and one of the tomatoes was 2 pounds. It looked like several tomatoes fused together. I saved seeds from the larger tomato. The rest of the tomatoes were the correct size, color and shape on the same plant.

When I send in these seeds, do they have to go under an experimental category? I don’t know if growing them out will produce a normal Fatima tomato or larger misshaped tomatoes. Please advise.

I assume there is a technical term for when multiple tomatoes fuse together, but I am not sure what the term is.
No special listing requirements for it.

Perhaps an expert can chime in on whether continued selecting for fused blossomed fruit might produce more fused blossom fruit in the future. I would expect to get what your current plant is producing, unless there was cross pollinating going on.

One odd thing about fused blossom fruit is that one part can get cross pollinated, while another part may or may not get cross pollinated. Such an occurrence is very rare, though.
Continued selection for fused blossoms does result in plants producing more fused fruits than normal. That is how selection is made for the competition tomatoes. The world record holder is Dan Sutherland and he has been growing his own strain of Domingo for years and only selecting seed from tomatoes produced from mega blooms. His plants now produce mega blooms on every truss as all good competition tomatoes should.
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Post: # 106243Unread post karstopography
Tue Sep 12, 2023 4:10 am

I bagged up 35 small zip bags of saved Domingo seeds yesterday. Each bag has no less than five seeds, most have six or seven seeds each, perhaps a few have up to ten or twelve seeds each. Every bag has a paper label inside. Most of the zip bags are 1.5” x 1.5”. I found the 1”x1” too time consuming and difficult to work with.

I’ve still got to bag up Mega Marv. I might have a similar amount of seeds for that one as compared to Domingo.

I’ve bagged up smaller quantities, mostly in the teens for bag count and each small bag has at least five seeds, of individually labeled Carbon, Dester, True Black Brandywine, and Persimmon.

I’ve got some 2”x 3” zip bags incoming for bean and okra seeds. I’ve got Sea Island Red Okra pods in quanity out on the plants maturing. Plan is to bag up those seeds once they dry in the pods in the 2” x3” bags. I’ve got far too many Maxibel bush bean seeds and some will get bagged in the 2”x3” bags.

I’ve bagged up a few small zip bags with my Lemongrass seeds. I’ve got more lemongrass seeds to bag if desired , but wasn’t sure of the demand for Lemongrass seed.

Some random mostly saved Pink Zinnia seeds got bagged up into small zip bags yesterday. Perhaps fifty or seventy seeds per bag.

I could bag up some saved french marigold seeds if anyone cares about those.

Once okra is dried and bagged I think that will be the final task.

I could save some Coyote seed if there’s a demand.
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Post: # 106533Unread post karstopography
Sat Sep 16, 2023 12:49 pm

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Taking advantage of a rainy day to organize my MMMM seed offerings. Way more organized I am this time around. Waiting on Sea Island red okra to dry and package up and I can send this off to Gary in Westfield.
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Sat Sep 16, 2023 2:26 pm

karstopography wrote: Tue Sep 12, 2023 4:10 am I bagged up 35 small zip bags of saved Domingo seeds yesterday. Each bag has no less than five seeds, most have six or seven seeds each, perhaps a few have up to ten or twelve seeds each. Every bag has a paper label inside. Most of the zip bags are 1.5” x 1.5”. I found the 1”x1” too time consuming and difficult to work with.

I’ve still got to bag up Mega Marv. I might have a similar amount of seeds for that one as compared to Domingo.

I’ve bagged up smaller quantities, mostly in the teens for bag count and each small bag has at least five seeds, of individually labeled Carbon, Dester, True Black Brandywine, and Persimmon.

I’ve got some 2”x 3” zip bags incoming for bean and okra seeds. I’ve got Sea Island Red Okra pods in quanity out on the plants maturing. Plan is to bag up those seeds once they dry in the pods in the 2” x3” bags. I’ve got far too many Maxibel bush bean seeds and some will get bagged in the 2”x3” bags.

I’ve bagged up a few small zip bags with my Lemongrass seeds. I’ve got more lemongrass seeds to bag if desired , but wasn’t sure of the demand for Lemongrass seed.

Some random mostly saved Pink Zinnia seeds got bagged up into small zip bags yesterday. Perhaps fifty or seventy seeds per bag.

I could bag up some saved french marigold seeds if anyone cares about those.

Once okra is dried and bagged I think that will be the final task.

I could save some Coyote seed if there’s a demand.
I will definitely interested in lemongrass. I am also interested in the red okra and French Marigold seeds. Your tomato seeds sound interesting as well.
Is the Coyote seed a bean?

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Sat Sep 16, 2023 2:39 pm

agee wrote: Sat Sep 16, 2023 2:26 pm
karstopography wrote: Tue Sep 12, 2023 4:10 am I bagged up 35 small zip bags of saved Domingo seeds yesterday. Each bag has no less than five seeds, most have six or seven seeds each, perhaps a few have up to ten or twelve seeds each. Every bag has a paper label inside. Most of the zip bags are 1.5” x 1.5”. I found the 1”x1” too time consuming and difficult to work with.

I’ve still got to bag up Mega Marv. I might have a similar amount of seeds for that one as compared to Domingo.

I’ve bagged up smaller quantities, mostly in the teens for bag count and each small bag has at least five seeds, of individually labeled Carbon, Dester, True Black Brandywine, and Persimmon.

I’ve got some 2”x 3” zip bags incoming for bean and okra seeds. I’ve got Sea Island Red Okra pods in quanity out on the plants maturing. Plan is to bag up those seeds once they dry in the pods in the 2” x3” bags. I’ve got far too many Maxibel bush bean seeds and some will get bagged in the 2”x3” bags.

I’ve bagged up a few small zip bags with my Lemongrass seeds. I’ve got more lemongrass seeds to bag if desired , but wasn’t sure of the demand for Lemongrass seed.

Some random mostly saved Pink Zinnia seeds got bagged up into small zip bags yesterday. Perhaps fifty or seventy seeds per bag.

I could bag up some saved french marigold seeds if anyone cares about those.

Once okra is dried and bagged I think that will be the final task.

I could save some Coyote seed if there’s a demand.
I will definitely interested in lemongrass. I am also interested in the red okra and French Marigold seeds. Your tomato seeds sound interesting as well.
Is the Coyote seed a bean?
Coyote seed is a little blonde cherry tomato from Veracruz Mexico. I haven’t saved any yet, but I can. Coyote is still producing tomatoes so I have the seed source.
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Post: # 106539Unread post karstopography
Sat Sep 16, 2023 3:07 pm

agee wrote: Sat Sep 16, 2023 2:26 pm
karstopography wrote: Tue Sep 12, 2023 4:10 am I bagged up 35 small zip bags of saved Domingo seeds yesterday. Each bag has no less than five seeds, most have six or seven seeds each, perhaps a few have up to ten or twelve seeds each. Every bag has a paper label inside. Most of the zip bags are 1.5” x 1.5”. I found the 1”x1” too time consuming and difficult to work with.

I’ve still got to bag up Mega Marv. I might have a similar amount of seeds for that one as compared to Domingo.

I’ve bagged up smaller quantities, mostly in the teens for bag count and each small bag has at least five seeds, of individually labeled Carbon, Dester, True Black Brandywine, and Persimmon.

I’ve got some 2”x 3” zip bags incoming for bean and okra seeds. I’ve got Sea Island Red Okra pods in quanity out on the plants maturing. Plan is to bag up those seeds once they dry in the pods in the 2” x3” bags. I’ve got far too many Maxibel bush bean seeds and some will get bagged in the 2”x3” bags.

I’ve bagged up a few small zip bags with my Lemongrass seeds. I’ve got more lemongrass seeds to bag if desired , but wasn’t sure of the demand for Lemongrass seed.

Some random mostly saved Pink Zinnia seeds got bagged up into small zip bags yesterday. Perhaps fifty or seventy seeds per bag.

I could bag up some saved french marigold seeds if anyone cares about those.

Once okra is dried and bagged I think that will be the final task.

I could save some Coyote seed if there’s a demand.
I will definitely interested in lemongrass. I am also interested in the red okra and French Marigold seeds. Your tomato seeds sound interesting as well.
Is the Coyote seed a bean?
I squeezed out about 15 ripe coyote tomatoes for the seed. They are in a shot glass beginning their fermentation. I’ll dry them once they are done and include them in my shipment to New England.
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Sun Sep 17, 2023 9:50 am

NYTomatoNewbie wrote: Wed Aug 16, 2023 11:23 pm Flowers I have available (but will only submit if people are interested)
I am interested in the bolded. If any listed that is a top pollinator attractor, please let me know. I am in Georgia, zone 7B / 8A. Thank you.

Corydalis
Pasque flower
Columbine
Pinellia cordata
Sundrops
Seathrift
Rose campion
Cranesbill
Globe thistle
Lambs ear
Rue - if Ruta graveolens, yes. Tips on germination and seedling care appreciated.
Double Feverfew

Meadow rue
Perennial yellow basket flower
Bluebeard - is this the same as blue mist?
New love Love shrub Clematis
Persicaria
Giant fleece flower
Mountain Centaurea blue
Perennial poppy

Catmint
Astrantia
Yarrow - do not need white yarrow, interested in non-white yarrow
Iranian wood sage - Tips on germination and seedling care appreciated.

Blackberry lily
Agastache
Lance leaf coreopsis
Baptisia
White Liatris
Native Beebalm / bergamot
Queen of the prairie
White Turtlehead
Blue Cardinal flower
Gaura
White Snakeroot
Doll eyes aka white Baneberry
Helianthus
Coneflower
Great coneflower
Brown eyed Susan
Clustered Mountain mint
Ironweed
joe pye - I cannot get these seeds to germinate for the life of me. I have tried cold stratification and winter sowing, and still no germination. Tips on germination and seedling care appreciated.
Blue vervain
Goatbeard
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Post: # 106590Unread post karstopography
Sun Sep 17, 2023 5:45 pm

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Spent more time packaging up some seeds, sunflowers and peppers this time around. At least 5 seeds per small pack. The times sign indicates how many packs per variety. Trying to systematically go through my seed collection and pack up surplus and or getting close to expiration date, based on seed viability tables online. All these sunflowers and peppers are from commercial seed vendors.
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Sun Sep 17, 2023 10:43 pm

I just came back from a walk in my neighborhood, and brought back a very healthy-sized bag of Joe Pye Weed seed. I would be happy to send nearly the entire bag for any attempts at growing it. I could even go back and collect bags and bags of more fresh seed. I have also had years of poor results at purposeful germination, but my sister has it springing up in her gravel driveway like a weed. So, it can be grown. And, it is an excellent pollinator attractor.

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