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davood's tomatoes and peppers 2023

Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2023 9:31 pm
by davood
Ramping up my efforts to grow tomatoes and peppers this year...

In Zone 7B, Maryland, will share my notes as the below varieties fare in my climate. Mostly growing based on recommendations, and will save seed from the varieties performing best for me to narrow down the selection for next year.

Tomatoes

Tommy Toe (2)
Matts Wild Cherry (2)
Girl Girl's Weird Thing (4)
KBXPL (4)
Fish Lake Oxheart (3)
Earl of Edgecombe (3)
Dester (4)
ISPL (5)
Vorlon (4)
Rebel Yell (4)

Peppers

Jimmy Nardello (2)
Jalafuego (2)
Ring Leader Jalapeño (2)
Little Dickens (2)
Giant Aconcagua (2)
Red Knight X3R (2)
Cayenne Sweetness (2)
Shishito (2)

Re: davood's tomatoes and peppers 2023

Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2023 10:32 pm
by Tormahto
davood wrote: Mon Mar 06, 2023 9:31 pm Ramping up my efforts to grow tomatoes and peppers this year...

In Zone 7B, Maryland, will share my notes as the below varieties fare in my climate. Mostly growing based on recommendations, and will save seed from the varieties performing best for me to narrow down the selection for next year.

Tomatoes

Tommy Toe (2)
Matts Wild Cherry (2)
Girl Girl's Weird Thing (4)
KBXPL (4)
Fish Lake Oxheart (3)
Earl of Edgecombe (3)
Dester (4)
ISPL (5)
Vorlon (4)
Rebel Yell (4)

Peppers

Jimmy Nardello (2)
Jalafuego (2)
Ring Leader Jalapeño (2)
Little Dickens (2)
Giant Aconcagua (2)
Red Knight X3R (2)
Cayenne Sweetness (2)
Shishito (2)
"narrow down the selection for next year."
Can someone help me, here? I don't understand the meaning of that.

Welcome to the forum, davood.

Re: davood's tomatoes and peppers 2023

Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2023 10:34 am
by MissS
Welcome!

Glogs are a great way to keep track of your garden and to help review your plants performance. I am looking forward to hearing how your garden grows for you this year.

I doubt that you will be narrowing things down much but rather you will be expanding your garden to try out even more of these wonderful varieties.

Re: davood's tomatoes and peppers 2023

Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2023 11:05 am
by PlainJane
Lol, you’re going to be swimming in Matt’s Wild Cherries.

Re: davood's tomatoes and peppers 2023

Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2023 12:55 pm
by Whwoz
Welcome @davood, you will find many temptations here and watch out for he MMMM if you do not want to broaden your selections.

Re: davood's tomatoes and peppers 2023

Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2023 1:21 pm
by AKgardener
Welcome!! I always get talked into just do one variety!! I agree cause shure easy right then I get on YouTube and we’ll that goes out the window my husband uses my white board and writes down every time I change my mind !! Good luck

Re: davood's tomatoes and peppers 2023

Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2023 1:59 pm
by pepperhead212
Welcome to the forum!

Re: davood's tomatoes and peppers 2023

Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2023 7:26 am
by bower
It's a nice place to start, with ten reputable varieties for your 35 spots. :)
Many of us, as new tomato growers, quickly go to the equivalent of 70 varieties for the 35 spots in a year or two. And maybe settle back down to a realistic maximum in another year or two. You may take on additional plots in community gardens, start wishing for a bigger place, or planning to move to a farm, or.... Tack on some years to persuade your significant other, that more ground for tomatoes is a must.
Welcome to the forum. ;)

Re: davood's tomatoes and peppers 2023

Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2023 1:18 pm
by davood
Tormato wrote: Mon Mar 06, 2023 10:32 pm "narrow down the selection for next year."
Can someone help me, here? I don't understand the meaning of that.

Welcome to the forum, davood.
Thanks. Next year I want to grow fewer tomatoes, so will eliminate the varieties performing worse this year.

Re: davood's tomatoes and peppers 2023

Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2023 1:22 pm
by davood
MissS wrote: Tue Mar 07, 2023 10:34 am Welcome!

Glogs are a great way to keep track of your garden and to help review your plants performance. I am looking forward to hearing how your garden grows for you this year.

I doubt that you will be narrowing things down much but rather you will be expanding your garden to try out even more of these wonderful varieties.
:lol:

It is a lot of work, but last year when I grew 7 plants the harvest was kinda small. Purple Zebra and Pomodoro Squisito. A lot of BER on the Pomodoro. This way I can try out a lot of varieties to see which perform best in my yard.

Re: davood's tomatoes and peppers 2023

Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2023 1:24 pm
by davood
PlainJane wrote: Tue Mar 07, 2023 11:05 am Lol, you’re going to be swimming in Matt’s Wild Cherries.
I hope so and want the squirrels to nab these and not the other tomatoes...

Re: davood's tomatoes and peppers 2023

Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2023 1:28 pm
by davood
Bower wrote: Wed Mar 08, 2023 7:26 am It's a nice place to start, with ten reputable varieties for your 35 spots. :)
Many of us, as new tomato growers, quickly go to the equivalent of 70 varieties for the 35 spots in a year or two. And maybe settle back down to a realistic maximum in another year or two. You may take on additional plots in community gardens, start wishing for a bigger place, or planning to move to a farm, or.... Tack on some years to persuade your significant other, that more ground for tomatoes is a must.
Welcome to the forum. ;)
Moving to a farm sounds like a nice long-term plan... gentleman farmer in retirement?

Re: davood's tomatoes and peppers 2023

Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2023 1:48 pm
by MissS
Are you growing in ground or are you using containers?

Re: davood's tomatoes and peppers 2023

Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2023 1:54 pm
by Tormahto
davood wrote: Wed Mar 08, 2023 1:18 pm
Tormato wrote: Mon Mar 06, 2023 10:32 pm "narrow down the selection for next year."
Can someone help me, here? I don't understand the meaning of that.

Welcome to the forum, davood.
Thanks. Next year I want to grow fewer tomatoes, so will eliminate the varieties performing worse this year.
There are lots of variables surrounding the ups and downs in tomato production. One of them is tomato varieties. Are you doing anything with other variables?

Re: davood's tomatoes and peppers 2023

Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2023 6:55 pm
by Yak54
"narrow down the selection for next year." (famous last words for most of us). "I don't understand the meaning of that" (most of us don't understand the meaning of it either !!!). Every year we say we will cut back but most of us don't. "Can someone help me here ?" ( Most of us have "the disease of never enough") Most likely we will just enable you to grow more plants . It's so so sad !!


Dan

Re: davood's tomatoes and peppers 2023

Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2023 9:55 pm
by MissS
Yak54 wrote: Wed Mar 08, 2023 6:55 pm "narrow down the selection for next year." (famous last words for most of us). "I don't understand the meaning of that" (most of us don't understand the meaning of it either !!!). Every year we say we will cut back but most of us don't. "Can someone help me here ?" ( Most of us have "the disease of never enough") Most likely we will just enable you to grow more plants . It's so so sad !!


Dan
Well he is growing multiples of everything. If he grew just one of each variety he would be able to keep the same number of plants but grow far more varieties. Then he could challenge his palate and learn about disease issues.

Re: davood's tomatoes and peppers 2023

Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2023 10:17 pm
by Lemonboy
Thirty five tomato plants and 16 peppers is just a first draft. There will still be plenty of time before things go into the garden to add more varieties this year, trial more peppers, and maybe add some cukes, melons, and beans. That's why there are nurseries in addition to seed vendors. And anyone selling starter plants as a fund raiser deserves some support...

If you're already thinking about next year you're think too far ahead.

Re: davood's tomatoes and peppers 2023

Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2023 9:39 am
by davood
MissS wrote: Wed Mar 08, 2023 1:48 pm Are you growing in ground or are you using containers?
In ground. I am not rich enough to buy that much soil :lol:

Re: davood's tomatoes and peppers 2023

Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2023 9:44 am
by davood
Tormato wrote: Wed Mar 08, 2023 1:54 pm
davood wrote: Wed Mar 08, 2023 1:18 pm
Tormato wrote: Mon Mar 06, 2023 10:32 pm "narrow down the selection for next year."
Can someone help me, here? I don't understand the meaning of that.

Welcome to the forum, davood.
Thanks. Next year I want to grow fewer tomatoes, so will eliminate the varieties performing worse this year.
There are lots of variables surrounding the ups and downs in tomato production. One of them is tomato varieties. Are you doing anything with other variables?
Great question. After last season I had the soil tested. It's low in phosphorus. Index value 17. Have some triple superphosphate that I will apply per the recommendations. I think it will help increase fruit set and yield.

Magnesium and Calcium were a bit excessive in the soil, but I don't think there's much I can do about that except to avoid applying any more.

I didn't really have too much disease pressure last year aside from BER. But I have some Surround WP (recommended by edible landscaping) and anticipate applying it as a preventative measure.

Re: davood's tomatoes and peppers 2023

Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2023 9:47 am
by davood
MissS wrote: Wed Mar 08, 2023 9:55 pm
Yak54 wrote: Wed Mar 08, 2023 6:55 pm "narrow down the selection for next year." (famous last words for most of us). "I don't understand the meaning of that" (most of us don't understand the meaning of it either !!!). Every year we say we will cut back but most of us don't. "Can someone help me here ?" ( Most of us have "the disease of never enough") Most likely we will just enable you to grow more plants . It's so so sad !!


Dan
Well he is growing multiples of everything. If he grew just one of each variety he would be able to keep the same number of plants but grow far more varieties. Then he could challenge his palate and learn about disease issues.
I thought about that but really want to collect seed to fuel future growing seasons so opted to plant more of each variety, and fewer varieties overall.