Trellis for my tall peas

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Re: Trellis for my tall peas

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Sun Oct 03, 2021 2:01 pm

Those are gentians, Gentiana lutea @GoDawgs . They are an endangered wildflower in Germany, where they use it to make 'bitters', and have naturalized here just loving the place entirely. They take a few years to bloom but are very long lived. The original ones I planted in the '90's are still in the picture, but with more flower stalks. It's a wonderful medicinal plant and a great thing to plant in damp areas. They produce a crazy amount of seed here every year due to having gone wild and rampant, so if you're at all interested in trying them, don't hesitate to ask! I haven't collected any seed this season but there's plenty out there. Besides being an essential ingredient of "bitters" that is a stomach medicine, they have quite a bit of antiviral and antibacterial activities, in the studies. The leaves also contain 'mangiferin' which has its own uses and smells like mango. I have to love em for the mango smell (and taste) alone. :)
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Post: # 55047Unread post GoDawgs
Sun Oct 03, 2021 2:10 pm

@Bower, thank you so much for your kind seed offer but they might not be happy here. I'm thinking Canadian maritime areas and Germany versus the US South with all the heat and dry periods here. And I really don't have any wet areas to plant them near.

But you've given me the botanical name so I can do some research and see if that species can flourish here or perhaps a close relative that looks pretty much the same. :)

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Post: # 55049Unread post bower
Sun Oct 03, 2021 2:21 pm

IDK if I will have more moose visitors to the peas this season - I haven't seen Venus yet and she surely had a calf or two - but since I grew SO many peas this year both tall and short, and, with Del around, anxiously took their pictures, I will go through them and see if I can give you a review of these fine and beautifully flowered and podded creatures in a hotter than usual summer. May take me a few days.
I put my 'trial' peas, those in few numbers, mainly in the old trellis at the left of this photo. Basically a repurposed fishnet upon two stumps, with branch extensions. It didn't blow over, but the 'short pea' trellis in the foreground did fall for Larry, still got peas on it though in spite of all! They both were moosed however. For wind alone, I'm definitely inclined to stump based trellis in future.
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Also had some short stature, short season peas, with a few hasty sticks to support, which were never nipped by moose! Glory!
They didn't eat the wheat either, nor the oats. Hulless barley is evidently the moose-habitat enhancer of the grain group.
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Sun Oct 03, 2021 2:26 pm

@GoDawgs the gentians are a gorgeous group. You may be right that they wouldn't love Georgia, since they like it so well here. :lol: I have a couple of others, one is a tiny plant with stunning blue flowers, the other is 'Tibetan gentian' with a white flower but rarely bloomed here although they persevered for many years - I have one with pods on it this season and just hoping to get some seeds. None of them transplant well at all, due to the deep taproot type system, so seeding in a permanent place is the way to go. I hope you find some that suit the south, and if so, please show and tell :D
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Post: # 55158Unread post GoDawgs
Wed Oct 06, 2021 11:09 am

@Bower, I have added gentians to my "check out for next year" list. And thanks for the hint about the tap root as I wasn't aware of that. Indeed they need a permanent home.

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Post: # 55413Unread post bjbebs
Sun Oct 10, 2021 6:50 pm

Just read through moose tales. Hilarious, almost worth the sacrifice, the redo, again and again, just to have mom and calfs so at ease. Food is the driver.

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Post: # 61892Unread post Danny
Sun Jan 30, 2022 2:46 pm

Bower, how do you use the hulless barley? Or even harvest it? We like barley, never thought of growing it. Moose pictures are awesome.

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Sun Jan 30, 2022 5:24 pm

Danny, I didn't get enough barley to eat any! Animals got it all, but a few heads that might be enough to start over for seed. That is strike two for hulless barley, as the same thing happened another year. Having no hulls just makes it easy to thresh at home.
I believe the key to harvesting the barley is to harvest it early. I kept waiting for the peduncle to turn straw colored, hogwash! The beasts knew well enough it was ready. And actually for hand harvest early harvest is fine - just snip and hang it to dry before threshing.
Wheat and emmer wasn't touched, so I'll be growing that again for sure. Still not sure if or when I'll try barley again...
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