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Post: # 122229Unread post JRinPA
Sun Apr 28, 2024 1:49 pm

All I can Tormato is if you feel young again and decide to have a go at it, be selective and careful of splinters.

Ok

50 years, soylent green, number one answer on the board.

Chicken pot pie, a thick greasy dish made with dark meat and very thick, soft noodles.

Meat pie, that is whatever baked in a shell, pastry style.

Dumplings are a biscuit dropped in on top of the pot of chicken stew.

Streudel is something very time intensive to make and is getting less common.

Plenty of options for pizza, but who needs to buy pizza when you can make your own. Yes I buy the mozz and the pepperoni at the store.

From scratch, yeah I consider pizza made from scratch even though I buy the cheese. Heating Ellios was not "from scratch".

If fermenting alcohol allowed human population to reach its current population density, was that a good thing? Bad yeast. Very bad yeast. Yeast should only be used for pizza dough.

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Sun Apr 28, 2024 2:54 pm

Townsend did a video on this type of small beer making to make water safe to drink.
Hardly any alcohol at all.
People back then didn't have a clue as to what was going on.
It just worked.
It's not like the kids were getting trashed or anything.
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Sun Apr 28, 2024 3:19 pm

Ethanol has 7 calories per gram. Carbohydrates, sugar and starch, 4 calories per gram. Fats, 9 per gram. Turning part of the harvest into an alcoholic beverage preserved it in an era with no refrigeration or reliable canning and was an important source of calories to get people through long winters, not to mention the whole making water safe to drink angle.

https://www.iflscience.com/bread-is-as- ... ohol-67805

Yeast bread has ethanol in it, up to 1.9%. Anyone that has ever eaten bread made with yeast has partaken of alcohol.
Soy sauce has up to 2% ethanol.
Even orange juice has ethanol in it.

No one added it, the yeast did.
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Sun Apr 28, 2024 3:34 pm

Some of the sponges I've made for bread had some serious lovely alcohol smells to them. :lol:
I read an article years ago about elephants getting trashed on year old oranges that converted to alcohol.
I've had them myself in orange groves in Arizona years ago.
Yes you can get a buzz on old oranges left on the tree that turned to alcohol.
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Sun Apr 28, 2024 3:54 pm

worth1 wrote: Sun Apr 28, 2024 3:34 pm Some of the sponges I've made for bread had some serious lovely alcohol smells to them. :lol:
I read an article years ago about elephants getting trashed on year old oranges that converted to alcohol.
I've had them myself in orange groves in Arizona years ago.
Yes you can get a buzz on old oranges left on the tree that turned to alcohol.
I’ve seen Cedar Waxwings get completely trashed on fermented loquats. Stumbling, falling over drunk.

Noah(Genesis 9:21) got trashed after the flood, who can blame him having gone through that experience!

One idea for a trip someday is to go to different countries and regions and sample their homebrews and local rather ancient traditions of alcohol making. Normandy with famous Cidre and calvados would be high on the list.

My son has had Chacha, the Georgian Pomace brandy. It’s so vile, that it’s good.
https://eatthistours.com/georgian-chach ... e%20spirit.
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Sun Apr 28, 2024 8:22 pm

worth1 wrote: Sun Apr 28, 2024 8:51 am
bower wrote: Sat Apr 27, 2024 8:28 pm Just spinning back to dumplings and whatever did they use before baking powder: grandmother had cream of tartar and baking soda, no baking powder in their house before 1949.
Almost every household brewd some sort of weak beer to drink and I've read they used the natural yeast to bake with.
This beer wouldn't be anything like we know of today.
Well my grandmother had her own yeast as well. Barm they called it. You couldn't buy yeast.
She made her own vinegar too, with a 'vinegar plant'.

I don't know if they did any brewing, but I do celebrate it as the, ahem, foundation of civilization. ;)
The cream of tartar is actually a natural product, made from the accretions on wine barrels. Gotta be good stuff.... :lol:
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Sun Apr 28, 2024 8:37 pm

Late summer around here you can see once in a while a buck get drunk eating a pile of apples like that. He'll chase off the other deer that want some.

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Sun May 12, 2024 8:23 pm

Trying to clear out the pantry, I just opened a can of
Comfort Creek Foods
Dumplings and Chicken

and the picture looks more like what I would chicken pot pie noodles. but a thin clear broth with diced chicken breast.
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