Flavor Bomb-like cherry tomatoes?

[Shule]

@wong-- I got the exact opposite problem. I got more room than I can manage. I generally do over 40 varieties a year.
PS-- you obviously know something I don't "I know the F-2 plants will probably not be any good". LOL

F2 plants will be like the F1, except that some of the heterozygous gene pairs will probably be replaced with homozygous ones. So, for instance, if it was regular leaf with a potato leaf allele, then you'll possible end up with two RL alleles or two PL alleles—or it could remain heterozygous. The same goes for many of the other traits. There might be some more complex genetics involved, too, but the mtDNA and all that should be the same.

F2 hybrids are often not as prolific as the F1. Some people say they never are, but I disbelieve this. The hybrid vigor (if there be any) doesn't always continue with the F2+.

So, basically, the F2s are just different than the F1s (not necessarily better or worse), with a fair probability of being less prolific. They can have more desirable traits, too, though. A high percentage of the F2 tomatoes I've tasted had finer flavor than the F1s. If the F1 is early, the F2 often isn't as early. Sometimes the F2s will have some really bad traits (just like some F1 accidental crosses), but sometimes they're awesome.

[TomHillbilly]

I have collected Hybrid tomato seeds many times, through the years. I myself have never seen a noticeable morph in a actual F-2 plant. This cuts against the grain of what you will read. I've seen many morphs appear in F-3's and F-4's. There is two risks in collecting from a hybrid. Because my plants are near others, I could collect seed from a individual tomato, that was cross pollinated, by a bee from a neighboring variety. This means I never collected a actual F-2 seed. Breeders must have a controlled atmosphere. That is why true F-1 seeds are expensive. Some of the cheaper F-1 seeds you see on sale. Is from people like me, that knows no noticeable differences will be seen in a F-2 plant. They sale F-2 seeds as F-1. It is my belief, Ebay has many of these people doing that. If I collect from one of those plants, I'll get a morph the next year. That is why I generally buy a plant I intend to collect from, at a reputable greenhouse. Or bite the bullet, and pay the big price from a breeder. This year I'm growing F-2 Sun-sugar, F-2 Sweets Million, and some F-2 that I lost the name of. A guy on the internet claimed his variety would beat my old Sun-sugar in a taste competition. He won the challenge. But I got set up with seeds for multiple years. The name tag got lost, and all I remember is-- it was a hybrid. Come on down to east TN with your champion supermarket bought cherry tomatoes. We will compare it to my horrible F-2 cherry plants. LOL . I'm sure someone with a microscope might see something I don't. I myself, have never seen a noticeable change in a actual F-2 plant. A heirloom must maintain its identity 50 years. Some stable hybrids won't display a visual morphed change for 10 years. The real unstable hybrids, like Sun-sugar, will morph into a horrible tasting red cherry tomato as a F-3 plant. Actual Sun-sugar, and Sweets million seeds are expensive. About every 5 years, I'll get my hands on a actual F-1 plant of these two, and resupply. I use to do the same with several slicers. Lemon-boy, Celebrity, Big beef, and Parks Whoppers, come to mind. I've abandoned many of the hybrids, because they themselves changed through the years. Its hard to believe now, but 30 years ago, Big Boy was actually a good tasting tomato.
I read closely what can be goggled on those "Flavor Bomb" tomatoes. That is a trademark name Sunset owns. They claim what separates their tomatoes is--- the seeds has to come from southern France. You can buy into that, if you want. I'm not even sure its a hybrid tomato. No one states it is. They just say their seeds has to come from France. Its hard to tell what cherry tomato variety that actually is. Ever hear the term "Trademark secrete ?" PS-- you toss everything I told you out the window, if you plan on collecting seeds from Peppers or Squash. Almost all their hybrids are sterile. Even if it produces, you most likely won't like it. Those has to be Heirloom to collect seeds. And its 5 times harder to do successfully, than it is with tomatoes. That is a different topic for a different day.

[Worg]

Worg, we do not allow the exchange of money for seeds here on the forum. If you would like some of my Flavor Bomb seeds, I am more than happy to share. All that you need to do is PM me.

Hi, can you check your pm, thanks!

[QAGUY]

You might try Super Sweet 100's. Great sweet flavor. Never had Flavor Bombs. Going to Sam's today and I'll see if they have any.

[QAGUY]

Was at Sam's today and picked up some Flavor Bomb. They were good, albeit a bit firm, almost crunchy.

Can't even compare to the flavor of the Super Sweet 100. Those are the best cherry tomatoes I've ever had.

Sweet 100 and Sweet Million are very good too.