2020 MMMM variety questions & maybe answers
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Nope, nope, nope. Did the search. Found a couple references to the world's largest tomatoes, and a bunch of stuff that was extremely explicit with no tomatoes involved (at least I hope they weren't). No description given for Big Marley.
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Could a tomato plant be classified as an annual shrubbery?Amateurinawe wrote: ↑Sun Feb 07, 2021 1:58 pm @Rockoe10 One can probably practice the pronunication here
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I'm still working on getting the details, but it appears to be a cross between a 7.10 pounder and an 8.22 pounder.
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[mention]AZGardener[/mention] (Or anyone who's grown it) Hi, I'm beginning to plan my bean placements and wondering whether Mitchell Family Cream Pea needs a trellis? Thanks! 

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Ooops, something gone wrong. I thought Miss Scarlett in the kitchen was a RL. It's germinated as a PL. Has someone swapped my labels around..... 

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Hi [mention]OhioGardener[/mention] , I just saw this post and wanted to let you know that I am growing "Premus" this year. My mom is staying with me a while due to Covid (she normally lives out of state with my sister, but my sister is a teacher and the covid exposure was too great so we moved her up here with me), and she's been helping me with seeds and growing a bit. Lifelong gardener but now her mobility is an issue. At the suggestion of [mention]HL2601[/mention] I decided to grow a micro that she can have in a container on my back deck, easily accessible for her. We went through several micro seeds and she selected your "Premus," I think because the seed package included such a detailed amount of information. Like me, she likes understanding what she's growing. Anyway, I just wanted to let you know that we are both looking forward to seeing how they do!OhioGardener wrote: ↑Mon Jan 25, 2021 3:59 pmSaraev Svetloplodnye was my submission. "Svetloplodnye" translates to light-fruited and it's one of the cold tolerant selections of Russian scientist PY Saraev who bred for light frost tolerance in the seedlings though this is said to be an epigenetic trait that requires conditioning from generation to generation. It is otherwise a nice tomato. A medium-sized light red slicer with a good sweet flavor. My bushes were loaded and it seems to have some keeping qualities as it will last much longer than many heirlooms after picking. My original seed source for this one was Tatiana's tomatobase: http://tatianastomatobase.com/wiki/Saraev_Svetloplodnye
Also, I saw Premus mentioned by another poster. It's an ultra-early, compact, 14-16 inch dwarf of Soviet breeding with 2 inch red fruit that I've been maintaining for the last 30 years and would be happy to answer any questions either here or via PM.
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Yay Kath! My Premus are looking just gorgeous too! 
Thanks [mention]OhioGardener[/mention] for sharing your babies with us!
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Thanks [mention]OhioGardener[/mention] for sharing your babies with us!
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I did trellis Mitchell Family Cream Pea. It gets about 5ft tall, and was very productive for me.HenriSportif wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 10:52 am @AZGardener (Or anyone who's grown it) Hi, I'm beginning to plan my bean placements and wondering whether Mitchell Family Cream Pea needs a trellis? Thanks!![]()
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I may have given you F5 or F6 seed, which is not entirely stable. Most of my named varieties will sometimes throw off a different leaf type, and sometimes a pink will produce a red or a red will produce a pink. I hope you keep it going. I could use another PL heart, if that's what the fruit shape turns out to be.Amateurinawe wrote: ↑Tue Mar 16, 2021 2:15 am Ooops, something gone wrong. I thought Miss Scarlett in the kitchen was a RL. It's germinated as a PL. Has someone swapped my labels around.....![]()
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I hope you enjoy them. The seeds were grown out in 2020 by my 81 year old father who has also been having a hard time coping with Covid lifestyle changes. Premus is larger than a micro dwarf, but still very short and compact whether in a pot or in the ground. Please let me know how they do for you and if you like them. I'm in the process right now of potentially donating these to SSE's seed bank so that they can hopefully become more widely available for small space gardening.KathyDC wrote: ↑Tue Mar 16, 2021 11:46 am We went through several micro seeds and she selected your "Premus," I think because the seed package included such a detailed amount of information. Like me, she likes understanding what she's growing. Anyway, I just wanted to let you know that we are both looking forward to seeing how they do!
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I received Miss Scarlett too. What is the plant (& fruit) of this variety supposed to look like? Thanks.Tormato wrote: ↑Wed Mar 17, 2021 1:22 pm I may have given you F5 or F6 seed, which is not entirely stable. Most of my named varieties will sometimes throw off a different leaf type, and sometimes a pink will produce a red or a red will produce a pink. I hope you keep it going. I could use another PL heart, if that's what the fruit shape turns out to be.
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Indeterminate, RL, red, heart (plump, not skinny), gets to 1 lb (maybe more, for those who may not know that they just might be over-watering).OhioGardener wrote: ↑Thu Mar 18, 2021 11:05 amI received Miss Scarlett too. What is the plant (& fruit) of this variety supposed to look like? Thanks.Tormato wrote: ↑Wed Mar 17, 2021 1:22 pm I may have given you F5 or F6 seed, which is not entirely stable. Most of my named varieties will sometimes throw off a different leaf type, and sometimes a pink will produce a red or a red will produce a pink. I hope you keep it going. I could use another PL heart, if that's what the fruit shape turns out to be.
Have you identified any/all of those Russian/Eastern European varieties you received in the swap, yet?
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I haven't been through all of them yet, but I have the names in my tomato spreadsheet and have been linking them up with Russian language descriptions.
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I received some Pink Pincess seeds in the swap which I think are a cherry according to what I can find. Half have come up PL and half are RL. So which one is right? I'd like to cull the ones that seem like an obvious cross, but can't seem to find information on the leaf type for this variety.
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Pink Princess was a very good tomato for me last season. It is an unstable variety so no leaf type is given. You can find more information here: https://www.fedcoseeds.com/seeds/pink-p ... omato-4107zendog wrote: ↑Thu Apr 01, 2021 8:05 am I received some Pink Pincess seeds in the swap which I think are a cherry according to what I can find. Half have come up PL and half are RL. So which one is right? I'd like to cull the ones that seem like an obvious cross, but can't seem to find information on the leaf type for this variety.
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Thanks [mention]MissS[/mention] ! Since yours were good last year, can you tell me which leaf type they had. I realize it may not correlate, but I have some with one of each type in a cell, so I might as well go with whatever was a good one for you.MissS wrote: ↑Thu Apr 01, 2021 10:31 am Pink Princess was a very good tomato for me last season. It is an unstable variety so no leaf type is given. You can find more information here: https://www.fedcoseeds.com/seeds/pink-p ... omato-4107
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I only grew one plant and it was regular leafed. You have both leaf types so why not grow both and see which you like better. I sometimes find that I prefer the PL leafed plants over their RL counterparts. 

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Does anyone have any information on Pokoritel Serdets? I was able to find the others, and I am just so excited. 

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Delectationoftomatoes lists it. They say bold and balanced. I found it sweet, like almost all hearts I've trialed. A medium-sized pink.
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Thank you!
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