The most recessive tomato
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The most recessive tomato
What would the most recessive tomato be like (only considering traits currently found in domestic tomatoes available for sale)?
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Re: The most recessive tomato
Not sure if I understand the question correctly but I assume you mean some kind of mega combination of all known recessive genes in one plant?
A very very small plant that is just alive (because it is so sick) and that only bears one huge yellowish-orange-green tomato?
A very very small plant that is just alive (because it is so sick) and that only bears one huge yellowish-orange-green tomato?

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Re: The most recessive tomato
It would be a potato-leaved micro (2 pairs of dwarf genes), not red or pink, and since good flavor is so elusive, it would taste GREAT. It would be disease resistant, (at least some of those disease resistances are recessive). It would be large, since cherry is dominant. Not round, since round is dominant, but I'm not sure what shape is most recessive. Not sure what color is most recessive, either.
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Re: The most recessive tomato
Don't laugh.Pippin wrote: ↑Wed Dec 08, 2021 6:30 am Not sure if I understand the question correctly but I assume you mean some kind of mega combination of all known recessive genes in one plant?
A very very small plant that is just alive (because it is so sick) and that only bears one huge yellowish-orange-green tomato?![]()
That closely describes the weirdest plant that I've ever grown. Not very, very small (about 18"), just alive and sickly from the start, one flower, (it looked like a determinate plant that terminated with no other flowers), one fruit (large but not huge) blocky and lumpy, plant died just before fruit started ripening, fruit color eventually was yellowish-orange-green (striped). It came from a pack labeled NOT Aunt Ruby's German Green, I think, as the writing was small and just about the worst penmanship that I've ever seen (and I've seen a lot, MMMM participants

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Re: The most recessive tomato
Blocky I've seen once. But lumpy? Rare genes!



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Re: The most recessive tomato
Just for color alone, how many recessives?
y - clear skin
r - yellow flesh
gf - green flesh
t - tangerine
og - pigment intensifier (same locus as Beta) and there is your yellowish green-when-ripe
what about stripes? IDK about them.
y - clear skin
r - yellow flesh
gf - green flesh
t - tangerine
og - pigment intensifier (same locus as Beta) and there is your yellowish green-when-ripe
what about stripes? IDK about them.
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yearly precip 61 inches/1550 mm
temperate marine climate
yearly precip 61 inches/1550 mm
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Re: The most recessive tomato
Carrot leaf is also recessive as is the bright lime green foliage... so maybe a carrot leaf potato leaf (not sure how this would look) with bright lime green variegated foliage white good tasting heart micro dwarf....Nan6b wrote: ↑Wed Dec 08, 2021 10:00 am It would be a potato-leaved micro (2 pairs of dwarf genes), not red or pink, and since good flavor is so elusive, it would taste GREAT. It would be disease resistant, (at least some of those disease resistances are recessive). It would be large, since cherry is dominant. Not round, since round is dominant, but I'm not sure what shape is most recessive. Not sure what color is most recessive, either.
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Re: The most recessive tomato
shouldn't it be r = non yellow flesh? Red is dominant over pink, no?
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Re: The most recessive tomato
Yeah, annoyingly they use capital R for the dominant red, and little r for the recessive yellow. I always think yellow when I see "y"

The only real use for the "official" names is if you want to do a search about it for some reason. I think I've written y for yellow in my notes a dozen times.
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